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Vancouver hurls millions of city money into housing and shelter as deadline approaches

September 26th, 2014 · 45 Comments

Since the first day that Vision Vancouver came into power, Mayor Gregor Robertson has turned up the flame on efforts to create new shelter spaces, interim housing, and permanent housing in the city.

But this week, as the election and a Dec. 31 deadline for “solving street homelessness” approaches, the city has started doing something I’ve never seen before: pay entirely for the cost of new interim housing without getting any provincial input or agreement on sharing the costs.

As my story here details, the city has unilaterally decided to lease the Quality Inn on Howe Street and turn it into interim housing for the homeless while that building is awaiting redevelopment. That is not cheap. $1.5 million for the 23 months of the lease, likely at least $2 million a year in staffing costs, and I don’t know how much for improvements, equipment, supplies, and so on.

It’s also single-handedly covering the costs of a new shelter on 900 Pacific, again, without any prior agreement with BC Housing on whether those costs will be shared.

(I said in my story that this was the first time the city had done this. Councillor Kerry Jang contacted me this morning, after he missed a call from me yesterday on this, to say the city did fund one HEAT shelter at the beginning of Vision’s first term, as a way of bringing other partners on board.)

Robertson said this is just an advance opening of a winter shelter, so the costs will be covered by the province, at least at some point. But seems to me the province has been sticky in recent years about which locations it’s willing to fund as shelters.

This is all on top of the announcement that Vision will put $400,000 of city money into school food programs. Again, an unprecedented move for a city to start taking on this kind of social-service spending.

While it would take a pretty hard-hearted person to gripe about feeding hungry children or housing the homeless, some people inside and outside the city have to be wondering what the limits are going to be when it comes to using the city budget to patch the provincial social-safety net.

Categories: 2014 Vancouver Civic Election

  • John Geddes

    As Frances points out these moves (housing, school lunches) of the City into areas of Provincial responsibility/funding raise significant concerns. These concerns are heightened when considered in light of an emerging pattern of City mis-management/mistakes. e.g. Marguerite Ford building. missing land titles for Marine Gardens, Brenhill Developments 508 Helmcken & 1099 Richards.

    I am beginning to wonder if we are witnessing a series of mistakes and mis-steps by over eager amateurs rather than some master plan of VISION intellectuals.

  • Bill Lee

    And Bob Mackin is noting on his Twitter feed [ https://twitter.com/bobmackin ] that the land speculator “developer” is Townline who donated $10,475 to Vision in 2011 and and they were in trouble with B.C. Housing on the redevelopment of the Hudson Bay store on Douglas Street in Victoria for a proposed subsidized condo apartments. (More on the latter at: thetyee.ca/News/2014/07/11/Audit-BC-Housing-Victoria/
    “Elections BC records show Townline donated $137,200 to the BC Liberals since 2008 and $16,000 to the NDP in 2013 only.”

  • Bill

    @John Geddes #1

    “As Frances points out these moves (housing, school lunches) of the City into areas of Provincial responsibility/funding raise significant concerns.”

    Every resident of Vancouver should be concerned about the continued overreach of the COV into areas outside their mandate. Housing is just one aspect of the social programs that are the responsibility of the Province and dealing with social issues piecemeal is guaranteed to be inefficient and likely ineffectual. The Municipalities complain about downloading of costs by the Province but I think it is more a case of the City taking on these additional services and then looking for funding for them.

  • Julia

    It is astounding the efforts that are currently under way at the hall to push things through so Vision can add it to their list of accomplishments – ready, or not- economically wise, or not.

  • The throwaway line that the election is nearing is far more important to these last minute actions than the 12/31 deadline for a failed promise.

    If these are really important actions (as most of these might prove to be), the real question is why it has taken Vision six years in power to do them.

  • Roger Kemble

    Solutions include strictly zoning for the construction of low-and mid-rise, ground-oriented wood-frame buildings built to local vernacular, which are just the products that are not selling to foreign, or local, speculators.

    low and mid-rise, ground-oriented wood-frame buildings”. You obviously share Lewis’ prayer shawl!

    Already the wood industry is manufacturing structural products from waste material: scraping up the remains of a century of willful destruction.

    How well I know, I was on the logging camps in the early 50’s.

    Much of what we pull out of the bush now comes as 12″-14″ poles destined, as I watch from my window, for Eastern wood grinders.

    How long do you thinq that will last?

    I would be cautious Randy @ #35 proposing zoning solutions, variations and local vernacular to local building typology.

    Colonial attitudes are so passé, as also illegal . . .

    By vaulting from local zoning issues to historic international consequences, (Colonial attitudes? Illegal?), Randy, you have taken on just a bit too much.

    As we can see by following MSM might is right as we engage desperation!

    This is an on-going crisis of our own making: why do you thinq all western governments are hell bent on manufacturing wars!

    It won’t be their kids on the front line!

    It goes without saying that “advanced societies” do not perpetrate genocide. Surely you are not that naïve!

    When it comes down to local, neighbourhood opinions Randy, history shows remote international power does dictate its just that Michael in the Courier doesn’t discuss it.

    Vote for whom you like come November. It’s only a job!

  • Roger Kemble

    PS You can play the local zoning game how you like.

    This is a world financial crisis Randy.

  • Roger Kemble

    PPS This . . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JBYPcgtnGE#t=223

    . . . is why the political chatter coming from aspiring civic candidates in the coming election is meaningless.

    This is why all our armchair experts, Randy, Lewis etc., with all their well intended diktats, (no towers in the sprawl), will eventually crawl under the bed and be forgotten!

  • Silly Season

    I’m interrupting this thread for a moment (can you even DO that via the written word?) to make this announcement:

    Frances Bula has won ‘Column of the Year’ at last night’s Western Magazine Awards ceremony. I think she should provide the link to that Vancouver Magazine column, here.

    Guess this means we will be buying her a beer on October 2nd.

  • Threadkiller

    Are we still anticipating that Gregor will bring an end to homelessness by the end of this year, as promised? I have been watching the ticking clock on this issue with some bemusement. If Gregor claims final victory over homelessness on New Year’s Eve, I think it reasonable to expect that he will spend a very busy 2015 finding cures for cancer, AIDs, ebola, and the common cold, ending the nuclear arms race once and for all, persuading the mujahideen of ISIS/ISIl to go home and enrol in anger-managment and comparative religion courses, and convincing the Israeli government to end their occupation and annexation of the West Bank.
    Once he’s accomplished all this, I might even be persuaded to vote for him.

  • gman

    Its more like hide the homeless,in a neighborhood near you.

  • Bill Lee

    @Silly Season // Sep 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm #11

    No, Madame Bula, doyenne of Langara’s J-school sharks, is becoming Queen of the Conkers with her massive, hard-from-a-hot-summer, chestnuts.

    Because they are street trees, it will come up at City Council on Tuesday to confiscate all chestnuts, acorns and other seeds on city streets, [to feed the poor?]

    The winning column was:
    Linkname: Where is Vancouver’s Big Bookstore?
    URL: http://www.vanmag.com/print/7663
    size: 251 lines

  • Threadkiller

    @ Bill Lee: Are we now supposed to be discussing Frances’s bookstore article (and what did it win)? I ask only because this subject (bookstores) is one on which I can claim some expertise, gained through long experience, and there are a number of minor inaccuracies, claims and interpretations (not all by Frances), and omissions in said article with which I could take issue… were this the topic of the thread. Which it isn’t (more’s the pity). OK, I’ll retire to my neutral corner now.

  • Brilliant

    Solving homelessness is like cleaning the Aegean Stables. The more you house the more will come attracted by the promise of accommodation. It’s time put in BC border checkpoints. Too bad Vision doesn’t care as much about the middle class not being able to find homes in the city.

  • Kirk

    Speaking of books, I was at the Word on the Street festival today. It was dead there. Years ago, it’d be jam packed with barely room to move. I don’t know what happened. Maybe Vancouverites really don’t buy books anymore.

  • Threadkiller

    There’s an old Texas folk saying used to describe not-too-bright people, which could be adapted to describe (too) many Vancouverites: “You buy ’em books and buy ’em books, and they just chew on the covers…”

  • rph

    In the City of Richmond, both Black Bond and Chapters recently closed, leaving only a small Indigo store in the mall. And that store has half it’s floor space dedicated to stationary and assorted giftware, and an abysmal selection of books.

    So a city of 200,000 has not a single new bookstore. High rent? A shrinking English speaking demographic?

  • IanS

    @rph #17:

    “So a city of 200,000 has not a single new bookstore. High rent? A shrinking English speaking demographic?”

    Ebooks.

  • F.H.Leghorn

    If people spent half the time reading that they spend staring at that dinky display and poking away at that tiny keyboard they might learn something meaningful.

  • Threadkiller

    As is well-known, bookstores are in trouble almost everywhere– especially independents. But they’re in more trouble in Vancouver than almost anywhere I’ve been. It’s not just e-books, although they play a role. But the e-book phenomenon seems to be plateauing for now– one would hope permanently, though it’s too soon to tell. (Interestingly, recent research has revealed that the brain receives and processes information from e-books in a different manner than it does from print material, with reduced levels of comprehension and retention of information.) A much bigger factor has, of course, been Amazon, which has trained an entire generation of book buyers to always seek out the lowest price possible. But there are other factors at work in Vancouver that I’ve never been able to put my finger on. I’ve talked with many booksellers and book collectors about this and everyone seems to have a different opinion. But the general consensus has long been that Vancouver is just not a “book town”; people don’t seem to be as literate here as they are elsewhere. Blame the huge appeal of professional sports; blame the multitude of available hedonistic pursuits that place immeasurably more emphasis on physical development than intellectual; blame changing ethnic demographics; blame what you will. No one, including me, has one pat, satisfactory answer. We can merely mourn the end results as this city moves ever further into bland cultural homogenization. Meanwhile. Bellingham, a city of 50,000, ably supports three top-notch secondhand bookstores and a very good new (and independent) one. Another great mystery.

    It’s interesting that the most successful bookstores that remain in this city– Banyen and Barbara-Jo’s, to cite two prime examples—- are specialist stores with a loyal customer base. And of course Chris Brayshaw’s Pulp Fiction store does very well, at least at the original Main Street location– which I think can be related to the Amazon phenomenon; evidently Vancouverites can still be persuaded to buy books– as long as they can get them at deeply discounted prices. Pulp Fiction’s excellent mix of serious and populist material has a broad-based appeal. Meanwhile, MacLeod’s, the best antiquarian/secondhand bookstore west of Toronto and one of the finest in North America, has been struggling for some time. Would they do better were they not in a downtown location? Who knows? Vancouverites, ever fickle. Go figure. And get out there and buy a book today from an independent bookseller.

  • boohoo

    I rarely buy books, but do use the library a lot. Part of it is a deadline, I have to finish the book by the due date. Part of it is space, I’d love to a personal library full of all my favourite books, but I have one book case that’s mostly full of travel books and photo albums. Part of it is book sharing, no need to buy a book when a friend has it and we all just swap titles. And of course part of it is cost.

  • rph

    Christmas and birthdays always means a gift of books in my household. Other than that my new book purchasing has dwindled over the past few years, entirely due to the cost. So it is the library, secondhand bookstores, thrift shops, and the new book bargain bin for me.

    If the cost of books were lower, especially for trade paperbacks (or perhaps a faster release to mass market editions) then I would purchase new books more often.

  • IanS

    @TK #20:

    “But the e-book phenomenon seems to be plateauing for now– one would hope permanently”

    From what I’ve read, the growth in ebooks is slowing down, but I’m not sure it’s plateauing. Guess we’ll see.

    Why would you hope it’s plateauing permanently? Not a fan of ebooks?

    “A much bigger factor has, of course, been Amazon, which has trained an entire generation of book buyers to always seek out the lowest price possible.”

    As opposed to the old days, where we used to go out of my way to purchase the most expensive books possible. 😉

    I am, or used to be, a big fan of the independent bookstores, spending lots time browsing and buying from places like White Dwarf and the old Book and Comic Emporium on Granville. However, ebooks have now totally won me over.

    I purchased a kindle about three years ago and now have over 500 books on it. Less expensive, convenient and far less storage space required.

    Most of the old books have been donated to the West End Library and, apart from travel books which have maps and pictures etc, I can’t imagine why I would go back to buying physical books.

  • Threadkiller

    IanS (#23)asks:
    “Why would you hope it’s plateauing permanently? Not a fan of ebooks?”

    Having collected (more accurately, accumulated) books on an ongoing basis for nearly 50 years– since my teens (learned to read at 3 and read avidly as a child), I detest e-books and all that they represent. For me, nothing compares to the experience of turning actual pages. The only practical use I would have for them is as travel guides. Being a dedicated user of guidebooks I tend to always take too many with me, as was the case on a trip to London and Paris a few years ago when I lugged about a dozen guidebooks with me. Unfortunately my favourite guidebooks– those from Rough Guide and Time Out, first and foremost– have yet to publish a suitable e-book equivalent of their publications, nor do they appear likely to any time soon (I’ve asked both publishers)– partly because of the technological challenge of including illustrations, maps, et. al. Unfortunate, that; it would save me a lot of trouble. I have been eagerly awaiting this development for some years. It would be great to also, say, have a few good histories of Paris at my e-fingertips when there, and maybe an appropriate movie or two (for that I should be looking at an iPad rather than a Kindle). Until technology catches up with my wants, I seem to be stuck with staggering along with my print media. Ironic that the only e-books I would consider buying don’t yet exist.

  • John Geddes

    Threadkiller @20

    Interesting comments re the relative lack of bookstores in Vancouver. I agree with you that whatever the reason, Vancouver has not been able to hold on to its independent bookstores. Perhaps our leading independents expanded into small (local) chains at just the wrong time (I am thinking of Duthies and to a lesser extent the Book Warehouse).

    I read a reasonable number of books on a regular basis and I note the following:
    1. Unless you have a really good store with excellent people, I find that buying online is often better experience — easier to find books, easy to access reviews, easy to check out the author’s website, easy to check best seller lists, almost “instant” delivery to my door at usually zero cost, much better inventory. (Last Christmas I went to Chapters with a list of books to buy and ended up coming home and ordering on line — it was THAT disappointing).
    2. E-books solve the crowed bookshelves at home problem. At the moment for every real book I buy, I have to throw out an existing one.
    3. The immediate delivery of e-books is often a feature. The fact that they can be bought anywhere is also handy (my last purchase was from the Air Canada lounge at YVR just before a long flight).
    4. Our library system here in Vancouver is EXCELLENT. The online catalog is great. The ability to put a hold on a book and have it delivered to your local branch could not be more convenient. I use the library a lot. I only hope that the authors of the books I read are being adequately compensated — I mean where else in this world can you get copyrighted material for free??
    5. At the moment we are seeing the Internet and blogs like this one consume more of our time. I remain optimistic that once the novelty of some of these new forms of communication wears off, that a the sustainable “timeshare” of reading/books will go up again. Not that we will ever return to the days in which books/newspapers/magazines were one of the only sources of information/entertainment. But I believe in the power of the written word in whatever format it is presented.

  • Jeff Leigh

    @Threadkiller

    Not sure why we are on ebooks, but I carried DK Eyewitness, Frommer’s, and Rough Guides, all as ebooks, on an iPad on a recent trip. Also Maps2Go, for offline (no roaming charge) maps down to building level, fully searchable, with wiki articles for all tourist sites.

    Can’t imagine carrying paper books on a trip.

  • Threadkiller

    Jeff Leigh:
    Do the Rough Guide e-books include the full text of the original entries? Not for hotels, restos et. al. so much as for historical/cultural info re landmarks, famous buildings, neighbourhoods, and so forth…?

  • Bill Lee

    @Threadkiller // Sep 27, 2014 at 10:49 pm #13

    @ Bill Lee: Are we now supposed to be discussing Frances’s bookstore article (and what did it win)? I ask only because this subject (bookstores) is one on which I can claim some expertise, gained through long experience, and there are a number of minor inaccuracies, claims and interpretations (not all by Frances), and omissions in said article with which I could take issue…

    No, that was a reference to the magazine column singled out for the Western Magazine awards last weekend.

    We should go back to talking about Vision’s Potemkin Villages pretending to be permanent solutions to housing crisis in Vancouver. They are really just shelters, intended for a quick fix and a claim that (Vancouver ((street) homeless))) has been solved when Mayor Gregor looks down from his new Barclay Street aerie. We are becoming a Gotham city or Metropolis (Fritz Lang, 1927) or worse?

    @Kirk // Sep 28, 2014 at 5:59 pm #15

    Speaking of books, I was at the Word on the Street festival today. It was dead there. Years ago, it’d be jam packed with barely room to move. I don’t know what happened. Maybe Vancouverites really don’t buy books anymore.

    Vancouverites never did buy books much. Bill Duthie noted that his customers for the most part, wanted best-sellers to ostentatiously show on the coffee table, not to be read. Some would buy other types of books but these could not support the bookstores.
    Costco and such stores now stocks the best sellers.
    And these eventually are dumped/sold ‘en masse’ at the York House or Point Grey schools Fall Fairs

    And [ Note new name ] Word Vancouver was spread out over several days of readings before the Sunday, if you checked the 64 page catalogue. The more common people coming were expecting to see a notice about Word on The Street (WoTS) and the new name doesn’t “sell”. I think that some people thought adverts for “Word Vancouver” were for the Readers and Riters Show next month which is all pay-up events.
    Anyway it seemed every year that most people came for free books, if not at steep discounts and if there aren’t any, they leave. Indigo/Chapters gave up years ago. Co-op Books doesn’t do that anymore. Anvil and a few of the miniscule publishers had displays. 32 Books shop (ex-TrenteDue) had a booth.
    Toronto’s “Word on the Street” is more successful being in the publishers’/warehouses’ city.

    @rph // Sep 29, 2014 at 6:43 am #17

    In the City of Richmond, both Black Bond and Chapters recently closed, leaving only a small Indigo store in the mall. And that store has half its floor space dedicated to stationary and assorted giftware, and an abysmal selection of books. So a city of 200,000 has not a single new bookstore. High rent? A shrinking English speaking demographic?

    “abysmal selection”??
    But that is what people expect in a new bookstore.
    Best sellers, pop lit and a few books for children, or to solve the school students problems (hopefully without having to buy the book)
    It used to be that books could be returned to Toronto for full refund if not sold in 3 months–that is not the case now. So bookstores try to play safe.
    Anyway Richmond has good used bookstores in Steveston, both on 3760 Moncton Street, 12031 First Avenue with coffee.
    There are English-language books of interest in the SUP bookstore upstairs in the Aberdeen Mall.
    The interesting world-class International Travel Maps & Books on 12300 Bridgeport Road is a bit out of the way nearer Ikea, and they publish maps of out-of-the-way places that no one else has. and more guidebooks than you can believe.
    Aviation World is at South Terminal 6080 Russ Baker Way of the airport has some interesting books.

    @Threadkiller // Sep 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm #20

    It’s interesting that the most successful bookstores that remain in this city- Banyen and Barbara-Jo’s, to cite two prime examples— are specialist stores with a loyal customer base. And of course Chris Brayshaw’s Pulp Fiction store does very well, at least at the original Main Street location- which I think can be related to the Amazon phenomenon; evidently Vancouverites can still be persuaded to buy books- as long as they can get them at deeply discounted prices. Pulp Fiction’s excellent mix of serious and populist material has a broad-based appeal. Meanwhile, MacLeod’s, the best antiquarian/secondhand bookstore west of Toronto and one of the finest in North America, has been struggling for some time. Would they do better were they not in a downtown location? Who knows?

    I wonder if the two B bookstores you mentioned are successful. Or that they have other sources of income other than passing over bulk books.
    Mcleod’s has too much stock and fewer of the collector customers who first came in. Being downtown, where they are expected to be, means that they get tourists, cruise ship patrons and other wealthy buyers.
    Then these customers have Albion, Criterion and other used bookstores in the immediate area, all walkable.

    If you want cheaper (random) books, you missed the West Point Grey United Church sale last month that is not bad and has a few thousand for sale in one day. St. Phillips on 27th Avenue was last weekend with a thousand books.
    I have noticed that over the summer, the Salvation Army has rearranged their bookshelves to other parts of the stores, often against the wall, or other less-space occupying layouts. I am assuming that fewer people are buying books there? Value Village perhaps?
    The White Rock Rotary sale is often good and has odd things like all foreign language editions of Miriam Towes [Taves] novels.
    I see that Nikkei Centre is advertising 14,000 books (not all in Japanese) for later in October.

    But this weekend the Vancouver Book Fair http://www.vancouverbookfair.com is at what they call “UBC Robson Square” 1-7pm on Saturday Oct 4th and 11 to 4 on Sunday. Yes it costs a few dollars to enter (discount on website), but these are serious sellers and will commiserate with you about the “selection of books in Vancouver, but feel this corinthian leather….” 😉
    Murdoch’s [ murdochsbookshoppe.com] will be there at the fair, one of the better used bookstores out in Mission in the upper Fraser Valley, who gave up his physical bookstore on First Avenue, the main street of Mission, earlier this year. [ see theprovince.com/news/page+turns+Mission+Murdoch+Bookshoppe/8373647/story.html ] Sad, as overhearing book conversations was one of the enjoyments of looking at the shelves of his stock.
    Though up the street, the huge Better Buy Books at 33017 1st Avenue in the former Mission Cinema must have over 250,000 books piled high up the shelves. You can sense the geological layers of books
    Chilliwack’s The Bookman may have fewer on public display but they have huge warehouse of stock there and just across the border in Sumas for international sales.
    Though for selection I prefer The Nugget Books on Vedder Road in Sardis.

    And then we haven’t even touched Book City concentrations on Beacon Avenue, Fourth Street in Sydney, B.C. or downtown Victoria.
    Victoria’s ABEBooks.com (now owned by Amazon.com) was created in Victoria to help used bookstores sell their stock around the world and is now in different languages (AbeBooks.co.uk. AbeBooks.de. AbeBooks.fr. AbeBooks.it. IberLibro.com. AbeBooks ANZ. AbeBooks.ca) to compete with other competitors elsewhere in the world. Macleods has refused to join the sales “co-op”

    Also this weekend for audio collectors (vinyl, few CDs) and some rock related books, the Fall Record Convention sale on Sunday Oct. 5 at the Croatian Cultural Centre from 11 to 5 pm.

    Meanwhile, Vision has permitted homeless to be without housing (NOT shelters) because they were not motivated by citizens of Vancouver.

  • Jeff Leigh

    @Threadkiller

    As far as I know, yes. They sell both the full coverage versions, with maps, and also shorter (snapshot) versions. I have the full ones.

  • IanS

    @TK #24:

    “For me, nothing compares to the experience of turning actual pages.”

    So it’s entirely subjective then? Fair enough.

    I too used to accumulate books, shelf after shelf of them. I also thought I would hate reading e-books and that nothing would compare to the feel of a real book. And then I tried a kindle.

    Haven’t looked back.

    “The only practical use I would have for them is as travel guides.”

    That makes me chuckle, as the only use I have for physical books is travel guides. We almost always use the Rough Guide, which, as you say, isn’t available on e-book. More importantly, though, I find the convenience of being able to flip through the book quickly to find a map, or a review or whatever is one thing that e-books will not let you do. Hence, we always travel with physical copies of the relevant Rough Guide.

  • Roger Kemble

    Lawrence Durrell: JUSTINE, MOUNTOLIVE, BALTHAZAR, CLEA

    Barbara Tuchman: THE MARCH OF FOLLY

    Alvin Toffler: POWER SHIFT

    Etc. etc. etc.

    Make the most of turning the page before glaucoma forces you onto the screen . . . like reading thru a telescope!

    I thought we were talking about housing the homeless!

    Who cares, as they say in Her Majesty’s Royal Navy, I’m inboard!

  • Lewis N. Villegas

    About time! The equation is very easy to figure out as we reported 3 years ago here:

    http://wp.me/p1mj4z-yX

    Not sure if this is the right approach or whatever. The baseline thinking in social housing is that we need it; we needed it 10 years ago; and we need a lot of different types.

    The article discusses why tower housing is not appropriate for social housing (Vision missed that one and a lot more).

    So, it costs LESS to house the homeless and those at risk than to treat them “on the streets”—whatever that means.

    On the point about federal>provincial>local devolution of powers… It’s time we grow the system. Here is another point where Brent Toderian and I are on the same page:

    We need a Federal>Local relationship.

    We also need a fourth level of ELECTED government: Regional. To put it simply, “our region” would be more or less concomitant with the Fraser River Watershed. We can have an east and a west region. Back to housing.

    Taxes are collected in the same place for all three levels of government, but then they divide and are never heard from of again, as is the case with housing. We need direct accountability and communication between the bureaucrats doing the work.

    One outcome of the Federal>local relationship would be a Housing Authority at City Hall founded in part with federal taxes, oversight and national dialogue between the major cities.

    Homelessness at the scale we have it in Vancouver is an urban issue. Too long we have been avoiding dealing with the issue comfortable in our suburban ways.

  • Frances Bula

    I am totally enchanted, by the way, with the way this thread morphed into books and bookstores.

  • Threadkiller

    Frances:
    Well, it’s so much more pleasant and interesting a topic than all that stuff on politics, planning, bicycles and assorted civic sturm und drang (insert winking smileyface here). Throw us some chocolate cake once in a while, as a break from the diet of raw meat.

  • Threadkiller

    IanS:
    Re your closing paragraph in #30: Couldn’t agree more. Ironic, n’est-ce pas?

  • Bill Lee

    And while some authors are print-centric, who would not want a tablet/laptop with the multimedia author Vernon Sullivan or Boris Vian so one could read the books and also listen to the songs, or recitations, or also watch movie adaptations like this year’s Mood Indigo directed by MIchel Gondry from Vian’s “L’Ecume des Jours” (Froth of the Days).
    See the collected works, digitized in a half-dozen formats at:
    https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Vian%2C+Boris%2C+1920-1959%22

    A single volume in the lap would not suffice.

  • IanS

    @TK #35:

    Yes! To add to it, one of the great advantages of the e-book for traveling, IMO, is that it lets me take along lots of reading (for air travel etc) in one small package. In the old days, I’d be lugging around a half dozen books in my suitcase and carry on.

    (And, Frances, thanks for the thread drive indulgence.)

  • Roger Kemble

    My book . . .

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Canadian-City-Victoria-Commentary/dp/0887722229

    . . . has just been digitized by Ottawa U Press.

    Check it out . . .

  • Bill Lee

    Keep the money in Canada and order at: http://www.press.uottawa.ca/the-canadian-city Though at the moment the order form prevents the selection of digical copies on this page when viewed today. And there appears not to be a digital copy via Amazon.
    3 formats,
    The Canadian City: St. John’s to Victoria: A Critical Commentary By Roger Kemble
    Paper $22.00 CAD ISBN 978-0-8877-2222-6 240 pages . 6 x 8
    PDF ebook $9.99 CAD ISBN 978-0-7766-2213-2
    ePub ebook $9.99 CAD ISBN 978-0-7766-2214-9

    PUBLISHER’S NOTE: Architect and artist Roger Kemble has demonstrated his ideas of urban design with images from sixteen major Canadian cities—among others. He has walked, measured, and sketched their streets, squares and places, scanned their horizons, probed the relationships between structures, land and landscape with unprecedented energy. More significantly, he has reacted to the negative effect that all the busy business of urban development is having on our daily lives and he has had the courage to offer concrete remedial plans. If, as Kemble (quoting Ruskin), reminds us: ‘Architecture is the mother of the arts’, then time spent with his bold, imaginative, idiosyncratic view of the making (and unmaking) of cities—drawn with passionate hindsight and compassionate foresight—will be a moving and healing experience.
    Through the beckoning text of The Canadian City and its 144 illustrations, we will come to know the map of our own country and city as never before. The long shadow cast by this knowledge will make us more aware travellers abroad, too. Principles of city living and city building will accompany us everywhere, with an unsuspecting vividness. There is only a short step from Roger Kemble’s studio to the world.
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    Though it would have been nice for a new introduction or afterword after all these years as a result of the digitization.
    For example these number might have changed in the meantime: “Appendices: Noise Levels; Common Noise Levels and Typical Reactions; Pedestrian Count, Sparks Street Mall, Ottawa; Canadian Cities.”

  • Jeff Leigh

    “We almost always use the Rough Guide, which, as you say, isn’t available on e-book”

    They certainly are, used them on my last few trips, on an iPad. One of my Barcelona ones says 2004 on the back cover.

    http://www.roughguides.com/shop/

  • IanS

    @Jeff Leigh #40:

    I stand corrected, though I will still go with the physical copies for the reasons stated.

    For electronic travel assistance, the tripadvisor city guides are invaluable, though only available for a limited number of locales.

  • MB

    For all the myriad of real and imagined losses in the disappearing bookstore, most of the annual Vancouver Writers and Readers Festival events are jam packed.

  • IanS

    @MB #42:

    “… most of the annual Vancouver Writers and Readers Festival events are jam packed.”

    Not surprising. E-books need writers and readers. Just not bookstores.

  • Dr. Frankentower

    “Make the most of turning the page…”

    Good advice, Roger.

    Doug Copeland notes the difference between the old print-based and new screen-based worlds, and laments,”I miss my pre-Internet brain.” He sees a rather colossal shift in how brains are wired, and how we now negotiate the world around us — I’m sure most of us have put in our 10,000 hours by now.

    “…the residual need for one’s life to be a story persists from the print era, especially in people born before 1970. Print-era holdouts see the non-linear children of the web as shallow and emotionally impoverished. Young people “born digital”, with no vested emotional engagement with books, view print holdouts as souls adrift in a useless sea of nostalgia.”

  • Norman12

    There are intellectuals in Vision?