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June 9th, 2015 · 48 Comments

As my alert Twitter readers (aka William Lee) have noted, I am in France, observing contemporary urban culture.

Here, as in Vancouver, I hear some same themes and drumbeats: the magazine cover in the Midi Libre I bought two days ago was focused on urging people to buy real estate now, while prices are low, with lots of advice on how to qualify. (Apparently you have to show months worth of bank statements here to prove you aren’t throwing your money away on lattes and designer shoes.)

There’s plenty of angst over les immigrants. The mayor of the nearby town, Beziers, has taken to issuing edicts — no laundry hanging out the windows, no youth on the streets after 10 p.m. — that are largely seen as unsubtle anti-immigrant measures.

Bike shares continue to flourish, apparently subsidized heavily by cities. Toulouse’s was fantastic, with plentiful docks in the central city and a rate of only 1.20 euros a day.

The radio programs are filled with concern about growing poverty, youth unemployment and all of the problems of the people at the bottom who seem to be slipping further behind all the time, while the prosperous class tries to decide whether to buy second homes. But at least in France, every town is required to build social housing. And, in the south where I am, they’re also required to provide a place for itinerant farm workers to park their campers and tents.

And I see from the driving we’ve done so far that big boxes, strip malls, awful suburban tract housing, and hideous block towers continue to flourish.

So, as I always do when away, I’m turning the blog over to you to discuss what you want. Any comments that seem to prompt a whole new line of discussion, I’ll take and put up as separate blog posts. So … enjoy.

 

 

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  • peakie

    Wrong? So many things.
    Mankind wrecks a nice setting and verdant agriculture for large hovels which they sit in an watch the flickering lights on large screens all day and night, ignoring their settings.
    The borders (US, municipal) are not “natural” and don’t need to exist. The hovels could be smaller and have a much smaller footprint (on pedestals like mushrooms?)

    Frances Bula mentions MidiLibre newspaper and Beziers.
    Midi-libre covers: Agde, Ales, Avignon, Bagnols, Beziers, Carcassonne, Lodeve, Lunel, Mende, Millau, Montpellier, Narbonne, Nimes, Perpignan, Rodez, Sete, Toulouse.
    Fascinating story out of the Beziers section on 1980s free paper written by later mayor “La Régie Occitane de publicité lance Le Petit biterrois, un nouveau journal gratuit d’informations et d’annonces, et Robert Ménard participe à l’aventure” for political reasons.
    http://www.midilibre.fr/2015/06/08/quand-menard-ecrivait-dans-le-petit-biterrois,1171903.php

    The Vancouver mayor supports the closing of Burrard Bridge on National Aboriginal Day for a Cult Worship for Lululemon whose head office a block away at Burrard and Cornwall bought him for donations and cheap Vision election Headquarters at 8th and Burrard.

    The Surrey mayors flails around and has no ‘vision’
    Burnaby allows the demolition of cheap rental housing for condo towers. …

    So depressing.

  • logan5

    It’s too bad what’s happening around Metrotown. The diversity that Metrotown has is quickly being routed out. The City of Burnaby just doesn’t care I guess because they could easily apply stipulations for these redevelopments of affordable walk-ups to include at least enough social housing to replace the displaced units. Metrotown is a dense neighbourhood (as dense as Mt. Pleasant) and will get much denser, but all for not, as it becomes more homogenized with every walk-up that comes down and every tower that goes up. A depressing place.

  • Voony

    Robert Menard, former journalist, founder of reporter without border the mayor of the nearby town, Beziers, has taken to issuing edicts — no laundry hanging out the windows, no youth on the streets after 10 p.m. — that are largely seen as unsubtle anti-immigrant measures. (said Frances)

    Ah ah, I have read that too in my french newspapers!
    So a clothesline ban which concerns virtually 99.9% of the strata in Vancouver and elsewhere is racist?
    A youth curfew as seen in countless cities of North America, starting by Ottawa (at Beziers it concerns youth below 13 loitering in public space without adult supervision after 11pm)) but also in France, in such cities as Nice, is racist too?

    This conclusion distilled by the French medias could not be well shared by the French, and in fact illustrates more the great disconnect between the french people and their establishment (main political parties and medias).

    Peakie, apropos mentions Robert Menard, the Beziers’ mayor: A good deal of the medias, and especially the Midi Libre, seem to have a axe to grind with him.

    The chief accusation: Menard is supported by a party called the Front National (FN), which come from the far right.

    The FN, used to be pretty repulsive party, openly anti-Semitic under the helm of its leader Jean Marie Lepen…things change…( anti-Semitism has not disappeared of Europe but has certainly changed of nature, and it is also a failure of the French medias to not have recognized that yet)…Nowadays the party is under the helm of Marine Lepen (the Jean Marie’s daughter). The president of the Crif (representating the jewish institutions of France,), Roger Cukierman, said of her, she is above reproach. and added in the same interview, that « all violences, nowadays, are committed by young muslim ».

    That is not much different of what Marine Lepen says. In brief, the front national has “normalized” its discourse and is not much different from other French right parties in regard of immigration and islam views. It has probably racist view but not more (may be even less) than the party of the former President Sarkozy:

    When Menard comes with a so called “racist” clotheslines ban, Sarkozy explains that French school cantinas should serve pork to little muslim…to save the Republic!

    A ca ira, ca ira…

    At the difference of the french electorate, the French media establishment has hard time to recognize these new grim political realities, and have decided that whatever Menard is doing can only be racist, since supported by the FN.

    Could it be possible that what Menard is doing is what he has been elected for: Reverse the decline of Beziers down town by a “good scleaning”, to take the word of Michael Geller, proposing not so much dissimilar solutions for Hasting ?

    Frances incidentally touches on the suburban urbanism; a probable reason for the decline of the Beziers town like many other mid sized town in France,,… leading up to the election of Menard…

  • jenables

    Frances, you are so close to rennes-le-chateau! (I think..) There is some crazy history there, I would love to see the mysterious church and le tour magdalen built by abbe sauniere with the mysterious money that mysteriously appeared after he (apparently) discovered some mysterious documents while renovating the ancient church. Oh, mysteries. So there is one example of something very, very, wrong with Vancouver, what little history or evidence of times past we DO have is being destroyed at an astounding pace. This city has sold it’s soul, thank god I live on the east side, where there are no lululemon stores, Chip Wilsons, or Gregor Robertsons.

  • jenables

    does midi libre mean free lunch? Midi was my dog’s name…

  • Voony

    Midi, here means South and is the nickname given to the area around Toulouse – Montpellier (see area covered by the eponym newspaper) – in french it also means midday but in a different context.

    so “Midi libre”, means “free South”.

  • Roger_Kemble

    What is wrong with Vancouver? Vancouverites are boring!
    What is right with Vancouver? Boring Vancouverites keep irrelevantly gossiping on and on and on and everyone else knows it!

  • peakie

    As in Italian Mezzogiorno (Mid Day) the hot, dry peasant land south of Rome where the sun is high in the sky.

    The Region (not the smaller “Departments”) one of 27 ‘regions’ and is now called Midi-Pyrénées (Occitan language: Miègjorn-Pirenèus ).

    The name chosen for the largest new region of 27 was decided by the French government without reference to the historical provinces (too many of them inside the region). The name was based on geography, Midi (i.e. “southern France”) – Pyrénées (Pyrenees mountains that serve as the region’s southern boundary), although the region also includes the southernmost part of the Massif Central, which has better communications with the coastal region Languedoc-Roussillon than with Toulouse.

    Midi-Libre is a Montpellier (further south than Beziers, Toulouse) regional daily founded in 1944. It was part of the Le Monde stable, but now part of the Bordeaux-based Groupe SudOuest. There are 14 city editions of Midi, but circulation like most dailies is as small as the Vancouver Sun at 143,000. They publish several weeklies too.

  • peakie

    Pesado, Senor Kemble?
    And how is the Nanaimo Harbour today?

    [ Uninteresting, dull, tedious, dreary, stale, tiresome, monotonous, old, dead, flat, dry, routine, uninspiring, humdrum, insipid, mind-numbing, unexciting, ho-hum (informal), repetitious, wearisome, unvaried, as dry as dust.
    Arousing no interest or curiosity: drear, dreary, dry, dull, humdrum, irksome, monotonous, stuffy, tedious, tiresome, uninteresting, weariful, wearisome, weary.

    aburrido, pesado

  • Roger_Kemble

    Hola Peakie, Nanaimo es muy hermoso, especialmente la costa del puerto fueron. Pero sí es aburrido demasiado. En cuanto a mí, haber tenido una vida tan interesante, soy demasiado viejo para cuidar. ¡Guan! Usted hablar Espanole tambien. Es una milagro para una Vancouverite.

  • Roger_Kemble

    An election is coming. Universal peace is declared and the foxes have a sincere interest in prolonging the lives of the poultry.” — T.S. Eliot

  • jenables

    Midi means south? I feel like Kim Kardashian all of a sudden. My dog’s name was actually the acronym MIDI though. Musical instrument digital interface.

  • jenables

    I knew it meant noon, and I suppose my mind wandered to lunch as a result.. 😉

  • peakie

    [Hello Peakie, Nanaimo is very beautiful, especially the harbor shore. But it is too boring. As for me, having had such an interesting life, I’m too old to care. Guan! You talk Espanole too. It is a miracle for a Vancouverite.]

    [ And I read Contacto Directo weekly newspaper and lived near their office once. I attend The Latin American Summer Festival of Food and music at Trout Lake on August 16th with 12 countries represented.

    VLAFF at September 3 to 13 2015 with Guest Country Mexico http://www.vlaff.org
    Though early shows 7-Jul-2015 7:00 pm Lion’s Heart 9:00 pm Gonzalez: The False Prophet at the Vancouver Cinematheque (Howe Street). part of Latin American Week in partnership with Latincouver.

    As for Spanish, I read some RSS sections of Spanish papers like El Pais and other “serious” newspapers on occasion. There are many Spanish radio broadcasts (to and from South America that one can hear with a cheap short wave radio as well as the Saturday pockets of local “ethnic” stations.

    Don’t forget that Frances Bula is multi-lingual and is entirely working the French language for the next few weeks before a report to Radio-Canada’s local shows. We should all pay attention.
    She had a spot in a program “Vancouver, Qui va?” [ title? ] that showed at the Hollywood and several times on Radio-Canada TV about city planning with Paris and local sociology experts.]

    Y leí Contacto Directo periódico semanal y vivía cerca de su oficina una vez. Asisto El Festival de Verano Latinoamericana de Alimentos y música en Trout Lake el 16 de agosto con 12 países representados.

    VLAFF en 3-13 septiembre 2015 con el País Invitado México http://www.vlaff.org
    Aunque espectáculos primeros 7-Jul-2015 19:00 de Lion Heart 21:00 González: El Falso Profeta en la Cinemateca de Vancouver (Howe Street). parte de la Semana de América Latina en colaboración con Latincouver.

    Como español, leí algunas secciones RSS de documentos españoles como otros periódicos “serios” El País y. Hay muchos programas de radio españolas (desde y hacia América del Sur) que se puede escuchar con un radio de onda corta baratos, así como los bolsillos Sábado de estaciones locales “étnicos”.

    No hay que olvidar que Frances Bula es multilingüe y está trabajando en su totalidad la lengua francesa para las próximas semanas antes de un informe a los espectáculos locales de Radio-Canadá. Todos debemos prestar atención.
    Ella tenía un puesto en un programa de “Vancouver, Qui va?” [Título? ] Que mostró en el Hollywood y varias veces en Radio-Canadá televisión sobre la planificación de la ciudad con París y expertos sociología locales.

    [Ne pas oublier que Frances Bula est multilingue et fonctionne entièrement la langue française pour les prochaines semaines avant un rapport à des spectacles locaux de Radio-Canada. Nous devrions tous faire attention.
    Elle avait une place dans un programme “de Vancouver, Qui va?” [Titre? ] Qui a montré à la Hollywood et plusieurs fois sur la télévision de Radio-Canada sur la planification de la ville avec Paris et les experts en sociologie locales.}

  • peakie

    Le Nouvel Observateur (L’Obs) weekly news magazine said today (Wednesday)
    “La radio Beur FM délocalisée ce mercredi à Béziers. Depuis 7 heures ce mercredi matin, Beur FM a installé son plateau au théâtre du Minotaure de Béziers (Hérault), la ville de Robert Ménard, maire élu avec le soutien du FN.
    Libération, qui est sur place, suit en direct l’« opération citoyenne » de la radio appelée République tout terrain”

    [Since 1992, the BEUR.FM radio station has broadcast nationwide (106.7 FM in Paris). It specializes in North African Arab music and other genres (funk, rap,…) discussion, and news.”
    “Beur is a colloquial term to designate French-born people whose parents or grandparents are immigrants from North Africa. It is also frequently applied to other Europeans with a North African origin, such as those in Belgium, the Netherlands and the UK. The word was coined by reversing the syllables of the word arabe, which means Arabic or Arab in French. For example, “arabe” becomes “a-ra-beu” then “beu-ra-a” and “beur” by contraction. The term is slightly familiar and not advised in formal speech with respect to etiquette.” ]

  • Lysenko’s Nemesis

    No, midi doesn’t mean south. It really means middle. Yet, in France, le midi is referring to the southern part of France. It’s colloquial.

  • Lysenko’s Nemesis

    Well, also the descendants from the Berber people. (there are still perhaps 25 million Berber language speakers in North Africa). The muslim (arab) conquest occurred in the seventh century.

  • A Taxpayer

    I hope you are not holding Vancouver to the standards of Nanaimo. What city could match the achievements of Nanaimo:
    – the Nanaimo Bar, have you ever met anyone who is not hooked after one bite?
    – that contribution to fashion, the full Nanaimo (white shoes, and belt, polyester sports jacket and pants)
    – and the always exciting Nanaimo Bath Tube race.
    Fortunately for you, Nanaimo is a hidden gem, a very, very, very hidden gem, and you will never have to worry about seeing “unaffordable” and “Nanaimo” used in the same sentence.

  • peakie

    Should Vancouver start Halkomelem, the local Coast Salish dialect. Salishan incorparates a greater inland grouping.
    Audrey Siegal of Musqueam has lamented the tokenism of a greeting in Salish on “unceded lands” at City ‘events’
    All Point Grey street signs to be changed to descriptive Salish words from the British names?

    It is a minor “basic children’s French” approach in the example below of the language around the Skeena River area.

    Prince Rupert students must learn indigenous language from September
    By Daybreak North, CBC News Posted: Last Updated: Jun 11, 2015 6:44 AM PT
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/prince-rupert-students-must-learn-indigenous-language-from-september-1.3108193

    Starting in September, all Prince Rupert, B.C., students enrolled in Kindergarten through Grade 4 will be required to learn Sm’algyax, the language of the Tsimshian First Nation.
    The language program has been available at two of the district’s schools for the past decade, but it will now expand to every primary classroom in the city.
    Roberta Edzerza, the Aboriginal Education Principal for School District 52, says the program is designed to teach small, simple aspects of the language that can be used in song, activities and outdoor learning.
    “We are on traditional Tsimshian territory and the Sm’algyax is the language of the territory,” she told Carolina de Ryk on CBC Radio One’s Daybreak North….
    To hear the full interview with Roberta Edzerza, listen to the audio labelled: Students in Prince Rupert to learn indigenous language.
    web.unbc.ca/~smalg
    ufv.ca/mola/mola-programs/halqemeylem-program/

  • Roger_Kemble

    I cannot remember eating a NanBar: way too sickly for me! I came to live in Nanaimo 1998, after a couple of years living in Mexico City, previously practicing architecture in Vancouver for over forty years. I was not impressed with the quality of clientelle in that city, as any perceptive observer will concur, accordingly I have lived on the waterfront overlooking Nan harbour ever since, keeping my sail boat in the harbour where I can see it. For years I sailed the Gulf Islands and Salish Sea until I got too old. I keep to myself. I now enjoy my life walking the seafronf promenade or in inclement weather, on the net, twicking the egos of people like you! Nanaimoites are just as dumb and disconnected as Vancouverites.

  • peakie

    Last weekend
    “The fleet is going to fill the harbour to bursting this weekend.
    The Van Isle 360 yacht race begins Saturday (June 6) in Nanaimo
    Harbour, and 51 vessels are all going to disembark that day and try for a fast start up the coast.”
    So busy that had to start in stages. Will take about 2 weeks to complete.

  • Chris Keam

    Big high res map to with relevant place names “before the white man came” according to Vancouver archives description. Click the image in the link for the embiggened version:

    http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/index.php/draft-map-of-indian-villages-and-landmarks-burrard-inlet-and-english-bay-before-whiteman-came

  • peakie

    Hard to believe that yoga-cultist Christie Clark was thisClose to being Mayor of Vancouver.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/burrard-bridge-yoga-plan-mocked-by-singer-raffi-cavoukian-on-twitter-1.3106928

    What if we had the weak Vancouver-Fairview, MLA, defender of the Cambie Street merchants, Gregor Robertson as mayor?

    Oh wait!

    He is. But is not going despite his interests.
    cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gregor-robertson-won-t-attend-om-the-bridge-as-yoga-backlash-grows-1.3110234

    As with the oil spill when Sam Cooper of the Province overheard and tweeted
    Overheard Robertson to aide Mike Magee ‘Are we just supposed to keep standing on the beach Mike?’ Magee ‘yeah keep walking’

    Thankfully the mayor only has one vote on council and the others are tougher-minded.

    What’s wrong with Vancouver?

  • A Taxpayer

    You can count on the Left to address serious issues with feel good symbolic gestures stopping only to congratulate each other on being so progressive before moving on to the next symbolic gesture while the underlying problems go untreated.

  • peakie

    Oooh, Christie Clark pulls out.
    cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/om-the-bridge-cancelled-as-sponsors-and-christy-clark-pull-out-1.3111363

    Will there be a “booking cancellation fee” bill from the city?

    [Lovely piece by Greg Rasmussen about Yoga on Bridge on CBC National
    radio at 6 a.m. For some reason it was not repeated at the 7 nor 8 am
    news. So arch, so much innuendo. Nice script. ]

  • peakie

    From the Nanaimo News Bulletin Year 2014 in review.
    “The City of Nanaimo also purchased land in Linley Valley to create a 71-hectare greenspace in the city’s north end. The purchase was a surprise, as council had repeatedly rejected the possibility of buying the land from developers.”
    Now when would Vancouver do that, or is it too late?

    Meanwhile, Nanaimo doesn’t have a convention centre to huff and puff about losses, yet.
    “For nearly a decade the property on the corner of Gordon Street and Museum Way sat empty, reserved for a conference centre hotel.”

  • A Taxpayer

    Not being familiar with the geography of Nanaimo, I trust that the proposed convention centre hotel is not downwind from the Harmac pulp mill.

  • Keith

    You can count on the right to address serious economic issues with the same failed policies of the last 35 years: cut taxes and regulations. When the tax rate is zero and the environment is coal black, they will call for tax cuts that will “pay for themselves” with the increase in GDP and self regulation for all industries.

  • A Taxpayer

    With capital being so mobile, uncompetitive tax rates will not only not generate the revenue you had hoped but you will also lose the benefit that capital brings to the economy.

  • Keith

    Why hasn’t all the capital in the world landed in the lowest tax jurisdiction. Because there are other factors in the capital investment decision that are never part of the dialogue, why?

  • A Taxpayer

    Of course all capital isn’t going to end up in one jurisdiction. Think of capital as the ocean and the tides as tax policy. The water sloshes around the world under the influence of the tidal pull of the moon but there is still water at the low tide mark, just not as much as there would be if there were no tides.
    New investment is more mobile since it is not always possible or cost effective to divest existing investments. However, you can be certain that clever accountants and tax lawyers will be working overtime to find ways to move the income generated from these investments to lower taxed jurisdictions.

  • Salvaich

    Hard to believe we have invented a new yoga position for politicians. Standing on your policy head while speaking.

  • Kirk

    So, the mayor admits there’s a plan B.

    http://www.cknw.com/2015/06/17/vancouver-mayor-says-s/

    The mayor of Vancouver is following the example of his counterpart in Surrey in saying he too has a plan ‘B’ for the city plan to build a Broadway SkyTrain line.

    Gregor Robertson says while he is hopeful the plebiscite result will be a “yes”, he says the city needs and east-west line, regardless.

    “This is just a matter of time, either we build it now, and I think we have great business case, so we spend a lot more money for it sometime in the future when the traffic congestion is even more horrendous.”
    In Surrey, mayor Linda Hepner has also said her city’s plan for three light rail lines will also go ahead, regardless of the transit plebiscite outcome.

  • jenables

    So.. This implies we need more east west connections, not less so i guess the viaducts aren’t going anywhere! It’s funny that he’s still talking about rapid transit and traffic congestion as though he’s never driven along cambie street… As if..

  • boohoo

    The trains in Surrey and Vancouver do not constitute a plan b. They are just a return to the selfish infighting for funding that has gotten us to the point we are at now. The plan we voted on was a comprehensive network road improvements, buses, trains, bike lanes, etc. No one City can have a plan b.

  • A Taxpayer

    Like all of the Mayor’s grand plans – end homelessness, make housing more affordable, etc – he is unable to accomplish his transit plan without the help of senior governments and because of his partisan attacks on both levels he is unlikely to find a receptive audience at either level. Surrey is probably going to be the big winner of a “No” vote, especially when Dianne Watts is the new Minister for Infrastructure in the re-elected Harper government in October.

  • Norman12

    What’s wrong with Vancouver? We sold our souls. Luckily, though, there were plenty of developers there to buy them.

  • peakie

    With the cancellation of the cult practice yoga fest promoted by the evil Norman Stowe on the Burrard Bridge for today June 21, Solstice and National Aboriginal Day [ Who went to the Oppenheimer park fest yesterday?]

    [ Stress-busting with yoga? Not in India
    http://www.dw.com/en/stress-busting-with-yoga-not-in-india/a-18526663?maca=en-newsletter_asia_taeglich-5132-html-newsletter
    What can be controversial about stretching and doing breathing exercises? Plenty, it seems, as India’s preparations for Yoga Day are marred by an unlikely row over the government’s enthusiasm for the ancient discipline. ]

    Should we be examining the closures of roads in Vancouver and Metro for “special events”

    I see that Viva, that strange city-supported urban planner thingy, has cut back Granville Street closures to one this year instead of diverting taxis and buses EVERY weekend to side streets because of their differentially (unsuccessful?) weekend festivals on the street. LatinVancouver is moving to False Creek for example.
    That interfering Vancouver Spacing Network (VPSN Annual General Meeting today at Third Beach 3 pm ) still has Robson closed for their dreadful “Porches” construction, thus messing up the Robson-Davie bus circuit.
    The Jazz festival closes Howe Street for concerts on weekends nearby.

    Numerous district-retail-promotional (BIA) groups have West 10th, Commercial Drive (Italy), Fraser, West 4th closed off for a day in the summer.
    Is it all too much? Other than a bunch of lookie-loos and drinkers does it bring any commerce to a district?

    “This project has been conceived and designed with the support and advice of the City Special Events Office. Much thanks and credit is owed to Dave Reiberger and Cael Hopwood. carfreevancouver.org/supporters/”
    Since 60 percent of the cost is fees levied by the city, is this another Vision Version of “panem et circenses”?

    [Bread and Circuses]?

  • Voony

    I see that Viva, that strange city-supported urban planner thingy, has cut back Granville Street closures to one this year instead of diverting taxis and buses EVERY weekend.

    Good to know, It is still one week end too much, considering how pathetic is the “program”:

    divrerting buses to allow Car2Go, Helly Hansen, and other companies to put a selling booth in the middle of the street, shows how pathetic has became this Viva organization which only agenda is to sabotage the city’s Transit.

    Hopefully, the Robson annual summer closure will be soon a thing of the past too: Transit user needs to get more respect from the city.

    I am OK with Ponctual closure of transit street, but that should be kept the exception: I didn’t have opinion on this “om the bridge” thing – not sure I understood the uproar too (is the Burrard bridge property of Vision?)…In the meantimes, in barcelona:

    “Om”

  • peakie

    Should the Jericho lands be set aside for the poor and inadequately housed?

    While Frances Bula is swimming in the Piscine du Rhône à Lyon, and showing La Pyramide how to cook turkey, she may also bring back housing solutions to Vancouver.
    I don’t know what she is finding in Lyon, (home of Interpol, (Nazis, political bias scandals, FIFA, etc.) and now Canada’s dear friend Giuliano Zaccardelli, (the infamous Commissioner of the RCMP from 2000 to 2006. Zaccardelli’s departure from the RCMP was linked to the force’s involvement in the Maher Arar Affair and later impugned during inquiries into irregularities in the management of the RCMP’s pension and insurance fund. Now assigned to the Africa section at Interpol), but she may have noted the intricacies in the Interpol housing advice for Lyon.
    http://www.interpol.int/Recruitment/Other-recruitment-pages/Specifics-about-renting-apartments-in-Lyon
    with nominal rates.

    Being in the south of France, one notices the public housing of Montpellier on the coast, and the recent showpiece, Antigone, a neighbourhood east of the city centre. It is best known for its architectural design by the Spanish (Catalan) architect Ricardo Bofill. His firm also built some of Paris’ New Towns

    Mr. Kemble might find it overly ticky-tacky, and find Mr. Bofill’s many projects overwrought with classical finishes.

    The district is built on the grounds of the former Joffre Barracks, of which only Montpellier’s citadel remains.
    The Antigone project, on a 36 hectares plot, has been one of the largest single development completed in France and attracted worldwide interest. In 1979, the newly elected leftistmunicipal council of Montpellier decided to undertake urban development and develop a new district on a site near the city centre.
    It has 4000 dwellings and is a kilometre long on the banks of the Lez river across from the regional government headquarters.
    See housingprototypes.org/project?File_No=FRA010
    ——
    Now can we compare it to the empty (ex-PMQ etc.) of the Jericho lands, that the mayor’s ghostwriters brought up in a speech last week to [Vision donors] Urban Land Institute luncheon.

    “In Vancouver, we’re seeing Mr. Harper’s government liquidating their holdings in the Jericho lands and the RCMP lands – some of the most desirable real estate in the country. I think it’s short-sighted to take these out of public hands. Let’s not turn these public assets into an enclave for the wealthy.”

    So we will place the poor and underhoused in Point Grey and Oakridge at cheap rates?

    The French Loi Besson of 1990 required the 96 Départements to establish programs to house low-income families. The National Code
    continues however to promote gentrification of Old Towns.

    For example of public housing in Rennes (Bretagne) 22 percent of the housing units (in 1990) were publicly subsidized. Rennes used a lot of metro and regional resources and aggressive local planning. See the South ZUP of Rennes.

    In Montpellier, “Le Programme Local de l’Habitat de l’Agglomération de Montpellier fixe un objectif de production de 5 000 logements par an, dont au moins 25 % de logements sociaux.
    Ainsi, jusqu’au 30 juin 2012, les subventions de l’Agence Nationale de l’Habitat (Anah) sont complétées par celles de la Communauté d’Agglomération de Montpellier afin de favoriser, notamment dans les centres villageois, un habitat de qualité, économe en énergie et accessible aux ménages à ressources modestes.”
    (from the 100 page report “Se loger dans la Communauté d’Agglomération de Montpellier (2012)” From l’Agence Départementale d’Information sur le Logement)

    Here in Canada, Toronto is the second-largest housing provider in North America The agency has over 58,000 units of housing and an estimated 164,000 tenants.
    “Toronto Community Housing is home to over 120,000 tenants living in communities across Toronto. Our housing portfolio includes more than 350 high-rise and low-rise apartment buildings.
    If you are interested in making Toronto Community Housing your home, you can apply as a: 1) Rent-geared-to-income (RGI) applicant, 2) Affordable rent applicant, 3) Market rent applicant
    About RGI (subsidized rent): About 93% of Toronto Community Housing tenants pay rent-geared-to-income(RGI). RGI is about 30 per cent of your gross income.”
    Frances Bula did studies on this as part of her Atkinson Fellowship at the University of Toronto.

    And back in the year,
    What if the Downtown Eastside ceased to exist?
    By Frances Bula. Published October 22, 2008 12:59 am
    – See more at: thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Municipal-Politics/2008/10/22/LeadershipVancouverMayoralDebate
    “Given that the neighbourhood is a source of embarrassment and that it attracts addicts and crime,” said the debate chair, “what if the Downtown Eastside ceased to exist? What if gentrification consumed the Downtown Eastside? Would you think that was bad or beneficial?”

    So, should the Jericho lands be set aside for the poor and inadequately housed?

  • A Taxpayer

    No.

  • jenables

    Maybe they should be used for seniors and veterans. Oh wait, isn’t that who was living there previously?

  • matt

    ha – at a density of 1 person per sq. km. – must be a better use

  • peakie

    It was the Permanent Married Quarters (PMQ), tiny 4 room bungalows for servicemen and servicewomen and families recently.
    It was the Jericho Barracks in the 1950s, ’60s and many of the CMHC 3-storey walkups along 4th Avenue and Broadway just east of the Alma Road were built to move them off. These were sold off to be torn down, diplacing senior old veterans to be built as 4 storey condos in the 1970s, 80s (See also the many, many standard housing models in the Southeast Vancouver, east of Victoria through Kerr Road.) [:In 1946, CMHC opened its doors to house returning war veterans and to lead the nation’s housing programs.” CMHC history
    At its inception, CMHC primarily provided financing for new homeowners,
    but it also provided a catalogue of blueprints or “small house plan[s]”
    designed by leading Canadian architects to build those new homes. (a Windsor, Ont. set at: http://www.internationalmetropolis.com/2006/02/17/victory-housing/ and a Heritage Minute video with Alan Hawco (Jake Doyle) as an injured returned vet. ]

    Now it hold the ex-Jericho Blind and Deaf School (Point Grey Academy), a few Armed Forces offices “Garrison” (4050 W 4th Ave)

  • jenables

    Wow, thanks for all the info!! It is truly insidious the amount of damage these cheaply-constructed-with-no-apparent-oversight buildings bring to people’s lives. Just think of all the hours spent trying to get compensation or proper housing, the direct impact on your health… In a new building. The people who built those buildings should have been tarred and feathered.

  • jenables

    Did anyone else read this article?
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/28/london-the-city-that-ate-itself-rowan-moore

  • Rico Jorimann

    What is wrong with Vancouver may be a lot more apparent after 3 or 4 years with the results of the referendum…..here is hoping I am wrong.

  • peakie

    Now Robertson says: No Plan B

    …”The mayors’ council met after the results were released and still plans to push for the transit improvements the region needs, said
    Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson, speaking for the council.
    He said without new funding, transit service will be cut at a time when the population is growing.
    As for how to fund improvements,
    “there is no Plan B,” said Robertson, who said mayors would not consider increased property taxes in the region. “We need an alternate solution from the B.C. government.”

    cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/transit-referendum-voters-say-no-to-new-metro-vancouver-tax-transit-improvements-1.3134857