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Who will take on the job of running against Gregor Robertson for mayor? The hunt is on

February 4th, 2014 · 93 Comments

The favourite parlour game among the political watchers these days is discussing who is being approached to take a run at the mayor’s job. Most of the chatter is about potential NPA candidates, although TEAM and COPE also see getting a high-profile candidate as key to their success. The names circulating? Carole Taylor, of course; Trevor Linden; Jamie Graham; Rick Antonson; Jim Chu; Colin Hansen; Margaret McDiarmid, among others.

My story here takes a look at the big names the NPA is said to have approached and why that mayoral candidate is so important. For those who plan to rake me down for not including current councillor George Affleck, yes, I know his name is also out there. But the reality is that the NPA appears to be shooting for someone more instantly more recognizable. George, in spite of some hard slogging he’s doing at council lately, is not there yet. There’s a sense that he is the fall-back candidate, if the NPA can’t score any stars.

For those thinking that this means the NPA is out of the running, well, not necessarily. As one Vision insider noted, there’s an advantage for the NPA in not putting out a mayoral candidate too soon. Announcing early means extra months for Vision strategists to dig up dirt on that candidate and try to frame her or him in a negative way. As we saw in 2002, when Larry Campbell sprang onto the civic election scene only in September, the opposition couldn’t really get any traction on negative stuff because of the short timeline.

On the other hand, having that mayoral candidate known helps recruit strong council candidates and bring in money from more than just the usual steadfast party backers.

This story will evolve, that’s for sure. This is just an early bulletin and an indicator of how hard the NPA is searching.

BTW, as I was researching this story, I was given to understand that on the COPE side, a couple of board members appear to be interested in running and there was a talk of a former judge running, until the party started fracturing in recent months. TEAM claims to have two potential good candidates in the wings. And one other name circulating for the NPA is Leah Costello, an events organizer who ran for the Conservatives federally a few years ago. She told me she hasn’t been asked and it’s something that would be a tough choice, as she has a busy operation. And I’ve heard since the story came out that maybe Jonathan Baker’s son is interested.

Have fun analyzing and gossiping, people.

 

Does anyone out there want to be mayor of Vancouver? Anyone? Anyone?

That’s the question increasingly making the rounds among political insiders, as three parties are on the hunt for that vitally important, brand-defining, headline-generating leader in this year’s election campaign.

That quest is particularly important for the once-dominant centre-right Non-Partisan Association, a party that ruled the city for most of a 70-year period up to 2002, but no one appears to be putting their hand up.

In recent elections, the party suffered painful defeats under mayoral candidates Suzanne Anton in 2011, Peter Ladner in 2008 and Jennifer Clarke in 2002.

It squeaked out a victory under Sam Sullivan in 2005.

This year, city voters are irate over development plans, bike lanes, a nasty community-centre fight and a general sense that no one is listening to them. Some are looking for an alternative to the Vision Vancouver party and Mayor Gregor Robertson, and the NPA is mounting a particularly energetic hunt in a quest to regain status.

“Our top priority now is finding our candidates,” acknowledged Natasha Westover, a paid staffer for the NPA. “A lot of people see this as a change election.”

“We’re looking for somebody who’s a leader and will stand up for Vancouver, somebody’s who’s successful in their own right and somebody who’s community-minded.”

So far, there appear to be no public takers, at least among the names mentioned by party insiders and close observers of the political scene. That’s even though NPA president Peter Armstrong is said to be making extensive recruiting efforts with former Canuck star Trevor Linden, ex-B.C. finance minister Carole Taylor and others.

Among the names circulating, the responses have been mostly negative:

Former Vancouver police chief Jamie Graham, just retired four weeks ago as Victoria police chief, noted: “It’s just not in the cards.”

Said Tourism Vancouver CEO Rick Antonson, who will be leaving his job of two decades in a few months: “I care passionately about this city but don’t have any interest in that.” His plan is to become a full-time book writer.

SFU Chancellor Ms. Taylor, a perennial favourite in the mayoral-candidate rumour mill, ends her term there in June. But she said “while I have been approached by a number of people to run for mayor, my answer to everyone is the same: As chancellor of SFU, I am apolitical.”

Colin Hansen, another former B.C. finance minister, isn’t interested: “After 17 years of that workload, that is enough for one lifetime.”

And former Vancouver-Fairview MLA and health minister Margaret McDiarmid said it’s not her thing: “It’s not the area of politics I was ever interested in.”

Three people whose names are currently in rotation didn’t respond to requests for comment. They include former Vancouver Olympics organizing committee chief John Furlong, who has been dogged by controversy recently, Mr. Linden and current Vancouver police chief Jim Chu.

Mr. Chu just tweeted a friendly picture of himself with Mr. Robertson on Sunday at the Chinese New Year Parade. Bob Ransford, a former NPA campaign organizer, said he doubted Mr. Furlong would be interested. “I know John and that would be the last thing he wants to do.”

Finding a strong mayoral candidate is key for a party that has any serious ambition to get seats on council.

“The mayoral candidate is the flag bearer for his or her party, is able to crystallize the issues and shape the campaign,” said Tim Louis, chair of the left-wing Coalition of Progressive Electors. His party decided late last year to run a mayoral candidate against Mr. Robertson. That was an open declaration of war against Vision Vancouver, after two elections where COPE co-operated with Vision and only ran council candidates.

TEAM, a new party, is also hunting for a mayoral candidate – something that will make the difference in whether it is taken seriously on the civic scene.

“It’s that star status. It shows weakness in a party if they can’t muster a leader,” said Mr. Ransford, who ran Mr. Ladner’s campaign in 2008 but has been decidedly more Vision-friendly in recent years.

The leader, especially, matters to the big donors.

“They assess the viability of a political force based on their leadership. If you don’t have that, they’re not going to bet on you.”

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  • F.H.Leghorn

    waltedious gets it spectacularly wrong in his version of K-12 labour relations. He is mistaken when he refers to “freely negotiated collective agreement provisions”. Those priviosions were imposed through legislation, not bargaining.
    The point in Wynja v. Halsey-Brandt was that the BCTF, in collusion with the NDP, had infiltrated school boards across the province with members or their families. This was a violation of the School Act section dealing with conflict-of-interest and a clear example of bad-faith bargaining by attempting to sit on both sides of the table.
    Whether it’s insisting on seniority as the only standard for advancement or calling an illegal strike or getting a tame judge to give them the right to campaign during parent-teacher conferences, the legendary intransigence of BCTF has been the biggest obstacle to excellence in education for 40 years.
    Who has “to injure public school students for partisan political purposes”. The teachers. Teachers who work half as much and are paid twice as much as the average tax-payer. Teachers who resist efficiencies (merit pay, degrees in the subject they teach, standard tests) and who grieve every single adminstrative decision. The spoiled darlings of the labour movement and the backbone of the NDP.
    And now they want another $1 Billion.

  • Waltyss

    Foghorn, I feel sorry that something happened to you that you so despise teachers. I have earlier pointed out that you were wrong about there never being a negotiated agreement with the teachers.
    As for Wynja, nothing in the decision says or implies that t he BCTF was in collusion with the NDP. It did find the teachers were in a conflict when they ran for school board on another school district. Correct decision in my view.
    “A tame judge”? This comment more than any of the many stupid comments you have made demonstrates the degree to which you fail to understand the role of the courts or the rule of law. A judge makes a decision he has the jurisdiction to make upholding a constitutional right to freedom of speech and you suggest that he is bought or “tamed”. No evidence; just the pathetic mewling of an irrelevant old venom filled fart (i would call you a man but for the fact you’re not).
    It is hardly surprising that you would be a tame supporter of the petty and vicious Harper Conservatives and the law ignoring provincial Liberals.

  • teririch

    @F.H. Leghorn #51:

    ‘The point in Wynja v. Halsey-Brandt was that the BCTF, in collusion with the NDP, had infiltrated school boards across the province with members or their families.’

    Kind of reminds us of how Vision has their ‘secret cells’ infiltrating neighborhood groups etc……

  • Waltyss

    It would be amusing if it weren’t so sad. Foghorn posts something for which he has no evidence: that Wynja was concerned with the BCTF, in collusion with the NDP, infiltrating schoolboards. The NDP is never mentionned is either the original or appeal decisions. It is also well known that theBCTF has bumped heads with both the NDP and the Liberals.
    Then, the neighbourhood gossip, as gullible as she is nosy, repeats this as gospel. I guess it is what one would expect given the history of the posts from rich and Foghorn.

  • teririch

    @Waltyss #54

    I would be very careful with the slanderous remarks.

  • F.H.Leghorn

    waltedious doesn’t have anything except slanderous remarks. The funny part is that he thinks others are reading his posts. Dream on, waltroll.

  • Silly Season

    @Waltyss. I don’t disagree on your assessment of what has happened in the Ministry of Ed, or the Premier’s part in same.

    Still, imho, as someone who deals in comms stuff, Ms. Bacchus threw out the red herring out that has created this stink. Therefore, yes, the eye comes off the bouncing ball that really matters.

    Silly, silly, sill. And that’s not just my name…

  • Silly Season

    PS I attended private school in Grade 12. best move (my own0 of my life.

    Public school to Grade 8 was fab. As a tween/teen easy to get lost (physically, emotionally, academically) in massive secondary schools.

    That would be one thing I would address…

  • Silly Season

    Sorry.

    My second sentence should have read something like this: Best move (and my own decision) of my life.

    Catholic school, and taught by ‘evolved’ nuns. Certainly not the most expensive joint in town, by a long shot.

    But a great schooling experience. Which every child in BC deserves.

  • Waltyss

    Teritherich@55
    You may be aware that truth is an absolute defence to an allegation of defamation. If you can demonstate where what I posted is untrue and defamatory, I would be pleased to withdraw the comment.

  • teririch

    @Waltyss: #60

    Already one step ahead of you.

  • brilliant

    Too bad COPE has fallen apart they could have picked off a couple ofthe lesser Vision councillors. But then I’m sure Vision has their grubby little fingers in the mess at COPE.

  • Higgins

    brilliant # 62
    Let’s go back in time 9-10 years.
    The artisans of the COPE failure in the 2005 election were Larry Campbell; Tim Stevenson; Raymond Louie; David Cadman;
    Later on Sharon Gregson and Aaron Jasper will add their names to the list of COPE traitors names.
    BTW, they all went to Vision.
    A little bit of controversy with the Jim/ James Green names. Not conclusive IMO.
    COPE lost. Vision got their foot in. NPA won.

    Jump to 2008.
    Despite to Sullivan’s terrible term in power, he could have recovered and win if it wasn’t for the genius of cllor turned green guru and urban gardener Peter Ladner the NPA undertaker.
    COPE was ridiculed and treated as second class party by the Solomons, the money people behind the Robertson campaign. Vision got in. COPE lost. NPA lost.
    Since 2008 there was a second attempt from COPE to ride on Vision’s tail with disastrous results (2011). Vision in my opinion have infiltrated most organizations, even the NPA… panels/ committees/ neighborhood associations etc. etc… that’s peanuts.
    COPE would get my vote if they put their shit together, and soon. If that doesn’t happen NPA will get it. Maybe NSV. The rest like Cedar, Work less … are only annoying, but appreciate their buzz.
    One good thing out of all this is the fact that most everyone I know wants to get rid of Vision.
    However, the party who gets the IKEA monkey to be their candidate for Mayor gets my vote, no questions asked.

  • Everyman

    Late to this party, but IMHO Carole Taylor’s time to do this was 10 years ago. Hansen probably is truly tired of politics. Antonson would be a logical choice given he worked for Armstrong at one time, but he probably really would rather write. Linden seems like just a farfetched dream, but it would make for a more exciting race.

  • Kirk

    Hi gang,

    We’re planning another beer night. We’ve got a few dates planned. Go over to the housing article to comment (trying to keep it to one thread).

    http://francesbula.com/uncategorized/right-wing-thinktank-in-uk-proposes-dramatic-new-restrictions-to-keep-foreign-buyers-out-of-housing-market/#comments

    Comment #93.

  • Kirk

    Regarding private vs public school, does anyone know how UBC and SFU determine admissions?

    I had a conversation with someone who said that after the BC govt got rid of provincial exams, UBC started scaling student grades by what highschool they went to. So, if a student got 95% at Van Tech, he would lose out to a student who got 80% at St Georges. So, therefore, it’s extremely important to pick the right school. Is that really true? If not, then how does it work?

    The rest of our conversation speculated if there were ulterior motives for getting rid of the standardize provincial exams.

    Were public school scores falling so far behind private that it was embarassing for the govt?

    Were the score differences negligible? And, the private schools lobbied the govt to remove the tests so that parents couldn’t see they were wasting money?

    Did rich families who paid for exclusive private schools get upset they didn’t get into UBC, so they demanded a non-standardized admissions criteria?

    Or, nothing ulterior at all?

    US universities/colleges use SAT scores. Is there something similar up here? If not, why not?

  • rph

    Admission increasingly is determined by money. Apply as an international student, with higher fees, and your admission is pretty much secured.

    There is lip service paid to the grades of international students, but in reality if you have the money then you have the seat.

    Both the provincial and federal government have recently announced increased placements for international students, further entrenching buy-a-seat.

    With that as the foundation, you have to view entry criteria for other students as subject to any sort of manipulation.

  • Kirk

    @67 rph

    Ugh. As much as I want to disagree with you, I can’t. Apparently, Surrey school board has a team that travels around the world to recruit more students. The students pay half. BC govt pays half! Meanwhile, schools in Surrey are overcrowded. But, I guess that’s a different budget.

  • rph

    @Kirk #68. A few years back, a co-worker of mine from the Philippines, her father had brought their large family to Canada and acquired citizenship for all of them on the immigrant investor program.

    The son wanted to get into university here and was unable as he did poorly in grade 12 here, so he went back to Manila. He came back a year later with one year of university under his belt, and grades good enough for UBC.

    My co-worker freely admitted that her father bought not only his university entrance in Manila, but also the grades.

    I remember being appalled at the time, but now, not so much. International students buying placements here, (often with grades lower than local students) is just a different bite of the same type of pie.

  • Jeff Leigh

    @Kirk #66

    “Regarding private vs public school, does anyone know how UBC and SFU determine admissions?”

    I can only comment on UBC, but would assume that SFU is similar.

    It isn’t just grades. For the part that is determined by grades, it can matter whether the grade is for a grade 12 course, an AP course, an IB course, or whatever. I don’t know whether one school counts more than another, but there are multiple levels of courses offered in public schools.

    Beyond that, admission can depend on other qualities such as demonstrated leadership, volunteer work, sports, and so on, usually documented via essay questions. So to bring it all back to grades and suggest that one set of grades means more than another, discounts all of these other factors. This leads to charges of gaming the system, when it may be that one person with higher grades didn’t have much else to offer compared to another candidate.

  • Frank Ducote

    After 70 mostly off-topic comments, the answer seems to be no. Nobody yet identified as a likely opponent to Robertson.

    Next posting please, Fabula.

  • Bill Lee

    @Frank Ducote #71

    Not here, not now.
    It’s far too early to announce a mayor only.

    Vision has so much money to do Justin Bieber pranks on him or her.

    But it’s coming.

    Maybe Alma Robertson will say drop it.

    “Yond Cassius Meggs has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.”
    Act I Scene 2

  • Kirk

    No chance of Robertson running for Premier and Louie running for Mayor?

  • Kirk

    @70 Jeff Leigh

    I hope I can get more info. I’ve got young kids in the public system and wonder if that’s a mistake.

    I like the idea of “other qualities”, but I can’t help think that could game the system even more.

    Job seekers lie on their resumes all the time. I can call in a few favours right now and get glowing reference letters of how wonderfully well-rounded my kids are, and how they travelled around the world in a sailboat setting up polio clinics. Of course, none of it’d be true, but I don’t see how UBC could really figure out if I bent the truth and padded here and there.

    Students buy term papers on craigslist and pay other people to write their exams. It’s very high stakes — I hope the universities can somehow keep up with all the crap that’s going on.

  • Kirk

    I just answered my own question and found a bunch of services on craigslist that will write admission letters and coach students for their interviews. The new reality of our hyper competitive world — you need a counsultant for everything.

    http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/bbb?zoomToPosting=&catAbb=bbb&=bbb&query=Admissions&sort=rel&excats=

  • teririch

    @Kirk #75:

    The world is very competitive and always has been.

    But buying papers, coaching etc – this isn’t doing any favors for the person in the long run. What happens when they get out of school, start job hunting and have to think for themselves? Certain flaws will surface.

    One company I worked for had the job seeker write paragraphs as part or the interview process as too many young people that were applying could not spell or write a gramatically correct sentence.

    To some point, we can thank technology for that.

    Spell check, Google etc. has taken away the need to learn the basics.

    Last summer I was at an event at a golf course; I bought a snack, gave the young woman (looked to be 17-19 years old) $22.50 on a $12.40 bill. She could not calculate the change.

    A recent study that cameout showed that young people were getting let out of jobs because they lacked social skills.

    Reminds me of the movie ‘Wall-E’ . The people that had got so fat because all they did was sit in chairs and push buttons – technology did everything for them. They were dumbed down.

  • Richard

    @teririch

    Do you mean “of” not “or”? Suggest that when talking about others lack of skill in constructing a sentence, you might want to take some care in constructing that sentence.

    Anyway, it seems like some in every generation thinks that the younger generation is going astray based on weak evidence anacdotes and illogical arguements. Kids these days. Quite frankly, I’m more worried about the mess that my generation is leaving the world in.

  • Mira

    Richard #77
    Really? This is what you can come up with? (re “of” – “or” above)
    You may need reading skills, darling. Message was clear.
    How about this… true fact… UBC student, enrolled in Marketing/ PR graduate degree/ 4th year !!! With 22 (twenty-two) spelling & grammatical errors on her only page paper exam?
    Don’t ask me how I know.

  • boohoo

    ‘…only page paper exam’….

    Next topic please!

  • teririch

    @Mira #78

    Roughly two years back, we were looking for a new staffer for our Vancouver office.

    Toronto recieved somewhere around 200 resumes in response to the call out and the vetting process went on for four months. The ‘manager’ whose department this person would fall under flew from Toronto for final interviews (some were done via conference call) finally making his choice and offering this young guy (25 years old) the position. Now this guy was unemployed and you would think that since he applied for the open position and went through several interviews, he was serious about wanting the job.

    Instead he started in with the ‘wanting to work from home’ versus the office and so on. Well, long and short, the offer came off the table in record time. As I told the ‘manager’ this kid can’t be too serious about looking for work when he turns down the offer of a $48K/year job (starting salary) with benfits and (great) travel. I guess unemloyment was that much more appealing.

  • Terry M

    Boohoo , LOL!
    Would “post @79 ritten by n azhaule” be grammatically correct and also spelled to your satisfaction?

  • boohoo

    Point = missed. Thanks for trying ‘Terry M’.

  • Jeff Leigh

    lol at spelling ‘received’ incorrectly when complaining about young people not being able to spell.

  • Jeff Leigh

    @Kirdk #74

    “I hope I can get more info. I’ve got young kids in the public system and wonder if that’s a mistake”

    I don’t think it’s a mistake. Our kids started in the public system in BC and Alberta. We lived offshore in two countries and they attended private schools (there were few other options). We came back to BC in time to get them into public high schools so that they could stream into local universities,. They both did very well in our public schools, and post secondary, just as they did well in the private schools. It is more about each student’s motivation and desire to succeed than the school itself IMO .

    Also, all admission info is on the UBC and SFU web sites.

  • Jeff Leigh

    Sorry, Kirk.

  • waltyss

    Wow, teririch @80. Such a considerate employer. The guy asks if he can work from home and rather than a polite “No, I’m sorry bit we require your presence in the office”‘; “the offer came off the table in record time”. Given what those kind of attitudes bode for the young guys future, well, he should be happy to job offer was withdrawn.
    Kirk: I had one child go through private school and the other through the public system. Was the private system worth $150,000? In my view, no although it provided a superb education. IN my view, however, the best measure of how well a kid will do besides his or her native intelligence is the time and support his/her parents provide.
    I encountered kids in private school whose parents spent little time with them who struggled both academically and socially and kids from less economically fortunate families who were very supportive of their kids in the public system who shone both on school and post secondary.
    Moreover too many parents send their kids to private school because they will encounter a “better” class of classmate. rather than because hopefully for $15,000 + a year, they can and should get a much better education.
    Having worked with many young people beginning in their field, I have no hesitation in saying that for the most part they bring a good work ethic and are often scarily intelligent. The suggestion that they don’t want to work or are uneducated is pure bunkum. And I would say 99% of them know how to spell “received”.

  • Bill

    @Kirk #74

    “I’ve got young kids in the public system and wonder if that’s a mistake.”

    It is smart that you are at least considering this could be a possibility. Over 10% of children are in independent schools and they all don’t attend the very expensive schools. Many parents of modest means stretch to afford the private schools. So you really should ask yourself why this many people are willing to pay extra if they can get the same education for free.

  • Chris Keam

    “I guess unemloyment was that much more appealing.”

    Maybe this potential employee met his prospective boss, knew it wouldn’t be a good fit, and decided to give both sides a gracious way to exit by asking for work conditions that he knew wouldn’t be accepted. This young fellow might be smrter (intentional 🙂 than that for which you’ve given him credit. Or maybe he sincerely wanted the kind of job flexibility that’s pretty common these days. The world changed and is continuing to change. One thing never changes. Old folks whinging about young ones.

  • Chris Keam

    “why this many people are willing to pay extra if they can get the same education for free.”

    People pay for labels sometimes. “Good’ wine even though they can’t tell the difference from cheap plonk in a blind taste test. Heinz over no-name ketchup. Presuming there’s logic in these instances isn’t a good idea. People make all kinds of irrational choices. When it comes to a good education what matters are your teachers and your parents. And there are good and bad of both in most every school, private or public.

  • teririch

    @Chris Keam #88

    It is not up to the employer to bend to you. You want the job and you accept the job, then you are accepting the protocol,procedures and parameters that go with the job. Typically certain expectations are laid out pretty clear in advance.

    Trying to dictate to a new employer how you want to operate is not the brightest idea. Negotiating job flexibility comes after you have your foot in the door, not before.

  • Chris Keam

    I’m sure you believe that to be true Ms Rich and perhaps it is at your place of employment. But it really depends. Some people are in demand, regardless of age, and can negotiate a deal they are happy with, even it’s not exactly what the employer wants. Anyway, that wasn’t the point I was making and we don’t know the other side’s story. One could speculate endlessly, but I think the point has been made.

    cheers,
    CK

  • Bill

    @Chris Keam #89

    “People pay for labels sometimes. “Good’ wine even though they can’t tell the difference from cheap plonk in a blind taste test.”

    Valid point, Chris and your wine analogy is quite good but it doesn’t mean that the wine is not better and that their guests won’t appreciate the difference. But let’s take the wine analogy a little further. It isn’t a choice between purchasing a $10 bottle of plonk and blowing the budget on a $100 Bordeaux. There are lots of good value wines at all price levels. (Unless, of course, you are like waltyss and dining out on the taxpayers’ dime and then who cares what the wine costs).

    But that doesn’t mean the $20 bottle of wine is twice as good as the $10 or even that it is better. So how does a consumer decide? Ask your friends or read Anthony Gismondi’s column and that should reduce the risk of making a bad purchase.

    Relating this to the public/private school decision it means your choice is not limited to either the local public school or St. Georges. There is a whole range of schooling options. And just because a school is private does not automatically make it better than the public school option. So how do you decide? Talk to other parents, visit the schools and check out the Fraser Institutes rankings based on exam results. (Yes, yes I acknowledge that one measure cannot capture all of the qualities of each school but it’s a bit like saying “That person may be dumber than a sack of hammers but it doesn’t mean that they can’t have a charming personality”).

    So, Kirk, spend the time to research the options that an important decision like this deserves and you will more likely than not make the best call for your family. Just remember, though, if you do select the private school option you will have to stay involved as you will not have the BCTF to look out for the best interests of your children.

  • Kirk

    Thanks everyone. Lots to think about. With tongue not too firmly in cheek, I’m thinking that the best way is to stay in public, and with all the money saved, use that to apply as a foreign student, either here or abroad.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/columnists/geoff-johnson-foreign-students-bring-money-and-costs-1.812267

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/9357875/How-foreign-students-with-lower-grades-jump-the-university-queue.html