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Vision hands over one of its spots on council to COPE for coming election

April 29th, 2011 · 36 Comments

Waiting to hear an explanation for this news release which has Vision and COPE agreeing that they will split the council slate 7-3. Of course, no guarantees who will be elected but, still, it means Vision is not going to go past the seven spots it has now. In 2008, you’ll recall, they had eight candidates, with only Kashmir Dhaliwal not getting elected from their team.

Still waiting for news on whether all seven current councillors are going to run again, but even so, not likely to be more than one, at most two, new names, for Vision.

But what can this mean? COPE has a winner candidate that Vision decided to make way for? Vision concentrating its votes on what it has now? Anyone?

COPE and Vision Vancouver reach agreement
Vision Vancouver and the Coalition of Progressive Electors (COPE) have agreed in principle to coordinate election efforts and endorse a common slate of candidates.
 
“We’re happy to have reached an agreement with COPE,” said Vision Executive Director Ian Baillie. “We think the progressive majority in Vancouver is best represented by our continued cooperation.”
 
The agreement would give Vision Vancouver the opportunity to achieve majorities on Council, School and Park Board.
 
Numbers of Candidates
Vision has agreed to run 7 for Council, 5 for School Board, 4 for park board
COPE has agreed to run 3 for Council, 4 for School board, 2 for Park
It is proposed that The Green Party run 1 for Park board.  If an acceptable agreement cannot be worked out with the Green Party then Vision Vancouver will run 5 for Park board.


 
The cooperative approach to governing led by Vision Vancouver has resulted in real progress for the City of Vancouver. Initiatives like the HEAT homeless shelters, greater support for Aboriginal students in Vancouver schools, and opening fully-accessible playgrounds were made easier by the cooperation of Vision Vancouver and COPE.
 
“This agreement highlights the fact that our two parties are committed to building a fairer, greener and more vibrant city,” said Baillie. “While the NPA fear monger and flip flop on every issue facing our city, Vision Vancouver’s elected officials are bringing new ideas and a spirit of cooperation to building a Vancouver for everyone.”

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  • Everyman

    Strangely enough, this decision makes me less, not more, likely to vote for any COPE candidates. For example, if Woodsworth is just willing to be a doormat for Vision after the way she’s been treated by them, it is hard to have any respect for her. As to Cadman, where has he been the last 3 years?

  • Ned

    COPE will have my…disrespect. I am totally agreeing with ‘Everyman’ before me. Until they stand up on their own against the Vision crooks that obliterated their own party, and stop signing ‘no combat’ agreements with them, I will not even bother. Another reason for walking away from this corrupt bunch.

  • Chris

    If we had a preferential ballot, these strategic back-room games would go away and all the parties could run full slates.

  • Bill McCreery

    Look for Tim Louie as Cope 3.

    Everyman and Ned are right. This really is an unholy alliance isn’t it? Look at Cope’s Council voting record. As time has gone on they’ve voted increasingly against their masters.

    VV will, quietly just before the election encourage their voters to plump their ballots to VV only, thereby skewering the poor Copers. This is known as an intended consequence.

  • Richard

    @Bill McCreery

    Think about it. That makes absolutely no sense at all. What would that accomplish and there is no way that in the age of the Internet, it would be done quietly. So how about stopping to invent wild schemes that would never happen and focus on real issues.

  • Everyman

    Richard its not that ridiculous. VV has done as much to marginalize Woodsworth (whom I admire, despite not agreeing with her on many things) as it has to Anton.

  • Michael Geller

    I hope the above comments do not cause the Green Party and NPA to reconsider the formal ‘strategic alliance’ I was told they were planning to announce next Thursday morning!

  • Michael Geller

    And speaking of Vision candidate Kashmir Dhaliwal, am I the only one who wonders why he seems to have disappeared from the civic affairs scene after losing the last election?

  • boohoo

    Strategic Alliances? Coordinate election efforts?
    Whatever happened to running for government because you as an INDIVIDUAL wanted to do good things, see positive change, make a difference for the greater good?

    This systen is a fracking joke. NPA, COPE, VISION, NDP, Libs, Cons, whatever. It’d be good comedy watching us re-elect the same old bullshit and expecting different results if it weren’t so ludicrously sad.

  • Richard

    @Everyman

    Enough of the idle speculation. Lets talk about real issues. Let Woodsworth speak for herself.

  • tf

    So that means one of the 7 Vision councillors is not running for re-election – or – they don’t have any new people to run under their banner – or – the party just threw someone under the bus???

    And who is COPE thinking of bringing into that 3rd position? They must be fairly confident to put a seat up for grabs for an unknown???

    Odd decision – and I’m very interested to see who stands up.

    Thanks for the news Frances!

  • Glissando Remmy

    The Thought of The Evening

    “New release. ‘Beast of Vision’ – The Stroboscopic Years, 2008 -2011. On VHS, DVD and on Limited Edition Self Destructing Eco Friendly Green Ray DVD.”

    Rated : R (Hair Raising Scary – for language, violence against unsuspected public)
    Duration: 15+ minutes of Fake
    In Magenta.
    Widespread.

    Loaded with Bonus features like:

    – Deleted COPE scenes (including simulated Vision arse kissing)
    – Mayor and Entourage Gag Reel
    – Heather Deal Mephisto-Laughing Takes
    – Tim Stevenson Confessional
    – Bloopers with Penny, Aufochs, Magee and the Hollyhock Tuba Players
    – Allen Garr’s Vancourier Recitals
    …and more.

    Speaking of the Mayor’s Gag Reel. This statement of his just surfaced today: “Vancouver is quickly becoming one of the most thriving, energetic downtowns in … the world,” he said. “In the coming years we’ll rival the downtowns of New York, of London, of Paris.”
    FROM: ‘City’s downtown in elite company: Mayor…London, New York, Paris models for Vancouver’ By ERICA BULMAN, 24 HOURS

    Get it? Vancouver is becoming a…most energetic …’downtown’! LOL
    Call me picky, cynical, pessimist, whatever… but having worked and lived in ALL of the above cities, my verdict is in.
    This Mayor has become, slowly but surely a certified LEED Laughing Stock. It almost makes me feel bad. I was wrong all along. He is not coming from Cortes Island… he must be coming from An-Delusia!
    Think about it. This is the guy who tops the Party who is keeping COPE on a short leash. Could you imagine the level of ineptitude that could be reached by this lovely tandem?

    O tempora! O mores!

    Now go do the right thing. Vote wisely!

    We live in VanLonPaYork and this keeps us busy.

  • Everyman

    @ Richard 10
    What idle speculation? You seriously don’t believe VV has clotheslined Woodsworth several times?

  • gmgw

    @Michael Geller, #7:
    I’ve long felt that the Greens’ progressive tendencies were shaky at best, so if your prediction proves correct (and a more cynical alliance would be hard to imagine), it will provide me with an ironclad motivation to never vote for them as long as I live. Thanks!
    gmgw

  • Roger Kemble

    Vote for what you like.

    Despite ideology, despite good intentions, they are all eventually crammed into the inevitable constraints of late capitalist monetary policy. Your parliamentary, local, national whatever, representative has no more power that you do.

    Except we have more power than we can dream of but it will take a Marie-Antoinette to offer us cake to bring us to that realization.

    The ongoing display of childish exuberance, mostly women I note, waving their ridiculous flags at that bemused un-dissevering, delusional, dress-up couple to show just what a deep trough we are in.

    Someone in that “Firm” needs a gentle wake-up.

    I doubt even a volley of Marie’s oven-baked goodies, hurtling down the Mall will wake that crowd up.

    Actually, what we are voting for this silly season (Federal tomorrow, Premier May 11, HST at her ladies pleasure, Provincial sooner-than-later), is a direct result of the Glorious Revolution of 1688. God know how it came to be called “Glorious“!

    In fact it was a capitalist revolution in the form of Dutch bankers backed by the ubiquitous Rothschild’s who even back then were intend up taking over the world. And if we don’t watch out we’ll let ’em!

    Mercifully, Canadian bankers not contaminated by the Jekyll Island crowd: although they still practice usury.

    Which bring me to the question, why on earth would an intelligent, mature human being thinq that being elected to any level of government in Canada will change anything and why the hell would we vote for them?

    Some would say political ambition is essentially a psychosis: I would be more charitable and call “control-freak-itis“.

    Until we throw “Marie’s oven-baking” back at them nothing will change: certainly not in Vancouver, marginally more so in Canada.

    So dream on but don’t expect too much!

  • Michael Geller

    GMGW @Michael Geller, #7:
    I’ve long felt that the Greens’ progressive tendencies were shaky at best, so if your prediction proves correct (and a more cynical alliance would be hard to imagine), it will provide me with an ironclad motivation to never vote for them as long as I live. Thanks!

    GMGW…an NPA/Green Alliance was not a prediction….on the contrary, it was written entirely in jest.

    Since Vision and COPE were teaming up, I thought NPA should team up with someone too. The only other party that has elected politicians in the past few years is the Greens…so it came to mind.

    So let me repeat: there has never been, and not likely ever to be an alliance between the Greens and the NPA. It was just a joke; I repeat, just a joke, written in jest.

    However, I now better understand why George Abbott and Moira Stillwell, who both have a wonderful wicked sense of humour, once told me why they invariably refrain from joking too much in public. People often misconstrue their humour.

    It’s a pity, isn’t it.

  • George

    @ Micheal Geller…. thanks for clarifying, I wasn’t sure if you were joking.

    Let me explain why. Just before Mike Klassen announced his decision to run for council Suzanne Anton tweeted almost the exact coy little comment several days in advance, even though it was denied by Mike, after a post AGT wrote on the exact issue…

    The second reason I questioned your comment is because I have heard for the past year, from a good source that there could be a surprise candidate, not affiliated with either the NPA or Vision… I must admit I don’t know who this person is… but you had me googling Kash last night…. Which led me to a number of old posts from many sites….LOL

    All this being said, you can see how some of us might have taken your comments seriously…. oh the power of the written word!!

    But now I understand that not only are you very well informed, you too have a wicked sense of humor..

    Have a great day….and know that some of us take you very seriously 🙂

  • The Fourth Horseman

    @Roger Kemble #15

    ‘The ongoing display of childish exuberance, mostly women I note, waving their ridiculous flags at that bemused un-dissevering, delusional, dress-up couple to show just what a deep trough we are in.’

    Mr. Kemble, come your “revolution” I do hope that we find, at its centre, some semblance of humanity, and not just the apparent sexism and cynicism that you display in your post. I think we’ve had enough of that kind of thing already in Canadian politics.

    As for the royal wedding, I think its harmless pleasure actually serves to point out a very basic need in us all.

    It’s about love, actually.

    And were we all to remember and employ that emotion a bit more, perhaps your hard-hearted world would indeed be a better place to live in.

    So, lighten up a bit, Rog.

  • gmgw

    @Michael G, # 16:
    Well, it’s a little late, but April Fool on me. It’s a measure of how convoluted politics has become in this city that I found the possibility of your spurious alliance all too plausible. In its non-environmental policies, the species of Green Party generally found in Canada appears to be determinedly centrist if not center-right at times, and as such holds little appeal for me. Interesting how the European Greens– notably those in Germany– seem to be much more oriented to the left. As with most international issues, Canada seems to be unclear on the concept.
    gmgw

  • Michael Geller

    GMGW, George, et al….I look forward to the day when individuals who can think and talk and write for themselves, can successfully run for Council, rather than just sanctioned members of a particular party. I know this is very idealistic, but I do think it would result in a much better system that what we have had for the past few decades.

    My hope is that after the next election there will be people with a variety of life experiences and opinions on Council. I look forward to the day when there is honest and critical debate, rather than the game playing, including ‘follow the leader’ that seems to go on.

    There are a number of people currently on Council who I would like to see re-elected next time. But I also hope some good new candidates can get elected.

    A Council dominated by just one party, whether it be NPA or Vision or Greens, or a very strong alliance such as we have seen with Vision/COPE is not in the city’s best interests. We need a balance of opinions, and more independent and critical thinking.

    As for me, I’ll be watching along with most of you……from the sidelines. cheers

    ps That is unless the Greens want me to run as their leader. (just joking!)

  • Glissando Remmy

    Michael # 20…that’s exactly what I think shall be the case (fat chance, what is a local winning campaign goes for these days 2-3 million $$$?), here’s what I had to say on CityCaucus a few days back:

    The Thought of The Night

    “Fools rush in. Always. That’s why, include me out! I’m the King of the Bongo.”

    After almost 2 and a half years of hearing NPA, VISION, COPE crickets playing guitar,the majority of them hopefuls are getting ready to bring their egos back and out into the spotlight.

    VISION, COPE, and NPA will enter another marital conjugation of sorts.
    Let the Best Liar win.

    I still think, that the future of cities lies in the power of independent voices and not in the manufactured, agreed upon, prepackaged political platforms dictated by groups of interests, partisan or not, whose only goal is that of advancing their own agenda and not yours. Go figure.

    From one Independent Thinker to another:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMLJVha5sw

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

    PS.
    Thin kinking of joy kneeing the Race-a-Thone?
    Me too.
    But only for the top job. I heard money is good, the transportation allowance is generous, work is light, responsibility zilch, I’m in!
    I am still working on my platform though. Well, it’s not exactly a platform, more like a patio if I’m honest. Local wood, harvested in the spring, also coated with only the best organic dyes. Green as they come.
    I’ll make an official announcement soon, on…’Glissando Day’ aka ‘The Day that falls on Glissando Day’ when I’ll also announce my running mates (also known as The Glissandos). Good luck with the Greens. 🙂

  • Max

    @ Glissy #12

    I read Robertson’s ‘Vancouver’ speech, given at a Vancouver Board of Trade luncheon, in the Friday Van. Sun. (Jeff Lee).

    ‘…Robertson said his administration’s effort to lure clean technology and green businesses to Vancouver had helped make it “the third largest cluster in the world” of such companies.

    Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Robertson+paints+rosy+future+core/4695095/story.html#ixzz1L7sVewbC

    I would like to know what ‘green’ companies he is referencing.

  • Higgins

    Glissando Remmy # 12, Max #22

    I read that too. Simply pathetic and piles of manure. It feels like I am looking out the window at the blue sky/ sunny day and on the radio they say cloudy/ rainy/ windy with a possibility of snowflakes. This guy Robbertson thinks he lies better than Colin Powell during his ONU con PP presentation, when he pointed out the Iraqi ‘weapons of mass destruction’ facilities… LOL

    Roger #15

    Hear, hear. There are not too many people that are realizing what is going on in the world. It’s a complete manipulation and transfer of wealth, influence, etc… Keep the masses entertained, occupied in their dreams for a green world, and full of princes and princesses, that invent titles for themselves and allocate parts of the country to their expense account while their brave boys and gals are trying to rape, rip off and destabilize yet another independent African country. Anybody mentioned that Will is a rescue pilot in RAF? But only if the rescue is done on computer in the game of Combat. As for the Dutch Bankers and the Rothschilds…what’s new? Lookee here at their rep. Joel Solomon and his 500 years plan. Must be the Juice, eh?

    Michael #20, Glissando # 21

    I would go for it. ‘Glissando Day’ 🙂 That’s too funny. I agree we need a new holiday.

  • Morven

    re COPE: Harry Rankin might be a little angry (were he still alive) that COPE is no longer a standard bearer but part of a VISION political chess game.
    -30-

  • Gassy Jack’s Ghost

    Max #22:

    Serendipitously, I came across one just announced:

    http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/car2go-press-conference/

    Note their Canadian Head Office is located here too.

  • Max

    @ Gassy Jack’s Ghost #25

    I did read about this new program in the Vancouver Sun and I saw a promotion team, with cars, handing out pens at 4th and Yew, yesterday (Sunday).

    Smart Cars are part of the Mercedes line and I would think this may be part of their program opened in Burnaby – fuel cell technology.

  • Max

    @Morven #24:

    I was questioning the same thing. Why can’t COPE stand on its own merrits? They are somewhat similar to Vision, but do have their own traits. Cadman and Woodworth have not always voted the Vision way.

    So why are they not their own party – completely separate from Vision.

    It would be better for COPE to stand on their own feet than have Vision chuck them a bone every once in a while.

  • Bill McCreery

    Morven, Max, please see my comment 4 above.

    “VV will, quietly just before the election encourage their voters to plump their ballots to VV only, thereby skewering the poor Copers. This is known as an intended consequence.”

    Cope are being used, badly. It’s to bad because the community voices they represent need to be at the table as opposed to the duplicitous, lees than transparent VV.

  • Morven

    Harry Rankin was elected time after time, even in a hostile political environment, quite simply because even his most fervent opponents recognized his ability to speak to the issues affecting both the ordinary and the downtrodden citizens.

    COPE (lite) is but a pale shadow of the COPE of the early 1980’s.

    So who now speaks to the pressing social issues? Certainly not VISION.
    -30-

  • Max

    @Morven #29:

    solcial issues – you mean like this;

    ….’Wendy Pedersen of the Carnegie Community Action Project said, “We are mortified that we have to fight for these shelters every year. Premier Clark promised to regularize funding for shelters. She needs to show she’s in charge and get funding within 24 hours plus commit to building 2000 social housing units a year in BC. We need the Mayor to live up to his promises to end homelessness, buy land for social housing and cancel his office renovations and other unnecessary expenses in order to pay to keep these shelters open as long as needed.”

    Wendy Pedersen of the Carnegie Community Action Project said, “We are mortified that we have to fight for these shelters every year. Premier Clark promised to regularize funding for shelters. She needs to show she’s in charge and get funding within 24 hours plus commit to building 2000 social housing units a year in BC. We need the Mayor to live up to his promises to end homelessness, buy land for social housing and cancel his office renovations and other unnecessary expenses in order to pay to keep these shelters open as long as needed.”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    are less appealing than the streets! Can you imagine?!”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    are less appealing than the streets! Can you imagine?!”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

    “Last spring, the City and Province shut down 5 shelters. Now they are shutting down 5 more, kicking people who have nowhere else to go onto the street. There is no good reason to do this. Everyone suffers. This cruel and precarious situation has to change,” said Tristan Markle of Vanact! “Mayor Robertson won power on the backs of the poor and working-poor, promising to make Vancouver affordable and to end homelessness. But the City is becoming less affordable every day, and the numbers of homeless are only increasing. We need a big change.”

    “Here we are with shelters closing in the same week the City of Vancouver passes a law saying it is illegal to put up shelter on a public street,” said Doug King, lawyer at Pivot Legal Society. “The lack of understanding is appalling.”

  • Max

    I am so sorry to eveyone, I have zero idea how the repeat copy happened! YIKES!!!

  • George

    Max @31

    funny repeat post, bet you can’t repeat that ten times quickly 🙂

    I’m not sure I understand this whole shelter thing.. there seems to be some games being played, and definitely favoritism..

    I question why some shelter protesters got arrested, and others didn’t when they stormed city hall… both occurred after the by-law passed.

  • Glissando Remmy

    The Thought of The Not so Natural Selection Day

    ‘Always. Why do they always have to provide you with only the smallest pencils known to mankind, the IKEA giveaway pencils? Inside the voting booths, that is.’

    Are they afraid you are going to draw a bigger check mark, or write an ‘X’ that doesn’t fit properly inside the minuscule box? Could it be because of the quality of the candidates? Do they want you to feel like a giant for the occasion, to feel empowered in some wicked way? How about if you have big hands, poor sight aka NO Vision, or you have several personalities, all big on ego? Fair questions.

    Now if you didn’t do it yet, go do the right thing. Go vote. However, I concur with Roger Kemble’s comment # 15. After all this brouhaha is over, do you think it would really matter? The ‘owners ‘ of the North American shmuck are laughing at us…and not with us.

    Here’s something for Max to make her feel better for her copy – paste error and for Vision to remind them of their humble beginnings. Oh dear! 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySey8kbOiO4

    No seriously now. Go vote!

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

  • Max

    @ George #31;

    I think I must have held the copy button down too long or too hard….ooops!

    Kerry Jang made some pretty harsh comments about the shelters being closed – it was in Van 24 hours later last week. I tried to retrieve them with not much luck.

    More or less to the advocates, it was you knew this day was coming and suck it up. People are moving into long term social housing, that was the plan.

    But it seems the blossom is off the rose with Vision and their promises to help the homeless.

  • Max

    @ Glissy # 33:

    THANK YOU! That was fabulous!

    I love BGT, great talents have funneled through them. I saw Paul Potts when he came here.

    Cheers,
    Ms. M.

  • Michelle

    Glissando, you had me in stitches.
    ‘Always. Why do they always have to provide you with only the smallest pencils known to mankind, the IKEA giveaway pencils? Inside the voting booths, that is’ LMAO
    That’s what I asked myself earlier too.
    And the BGT clip was hilarious, that guy was genial, absolutely genial. BTW, I completely forgot about this show, I’ll be watching it from now on. Thank you!