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The city of empty condos: New census number-crunching shows high numbers of condos are empty or occupied only by temporary visitors

March 21st, 2013 · 117 Comments

Here’s another can of gas on the debate that’s been bubbling in Vancouver ever since the first condo building on the old Expo grounds got marketed first in Hong Kong, rather than to locals as everyone debates: Are we selling off our city to global real-estate speculators and vacationers?

I’m hoping to get permission from UBC prof Andy Yan to post or link to the slideshow he used last night when we spoke at the very well-attended “Foreign investment in Vancouver real estate” panel.

Before everyone goes running off in all directions (you’d never do that, would you?), I feel I need to emphasize that the thoughtful people I talk to keep emphasizing that we need to be precise when we’re talking about who is distorting what in the local real-estate market. There are often three categories that commenters jumble together, but they’re different.

Those categories: 1. All investors in general, whether local or offshore 2. Strictly offshore investors 3. Immigrants moving here and buying places they plan to live in. I’d add, too, that people already know there are a lot of investors buying Vancouver condos. Various methods of research (whether they apply for homeowner grants; where property tax bills are mailed to, etc) indicate that about 50-60 per cent of condos in Vancouver are owned by people who don’t live in them.

The point made in this story is about the large number of those investor-owned condos that are apparently not even being rented out long-term to anyone local.

Okay, ready, set, go.

FRANCES BULA

Published Wednesday, Mar. 20, 2013 10:00PM EDT

Last updated Thursday, Mar. 21, 2013 07:13AM EDT

Nearly a quarter of condos in Vancouver are empty or occupied by non-residents in some dense areas of downtown, a signal that investors play a significant role in the city’s housing market.

And the city overall has a much higher rate of empty apartments and houses than other Canadian cities, with a rate closer to places like New York and San Francisco at the height of their mortgage crisis in 2010.

Downtown, the rate is so high that it’s as though there were 35 towers at 20 storeys apiece – empty.

That’s the latest discovery that adjunct UBC planning professor Andrew Yan made when he analyzed 2011 census numbers to try to add more information to the contentious debate over whether Vancouver is turning into a high-end resort or offshore investors’ holding tank.

He revealed those numbers Wednesday night, as a capacity crowd turned out to listen to speakers on a panel at SFU Woodward’s talk about “foreign investment in Vancouver real estate.”

In all, the city of Vancouver appears to have about 7,500 more vacant housing units than what would be expected in most other Canadian cities. For Metro Vancouver, there are around 15,000 to 20,000 more.

That sign of high vacancies and non-resident-owned units, which contradict some other studies and assurances that Vancouver is not being flooded with investors, should give the city pause, analysts say.

“What kind of community are you living in if there are that many empty? For a city to have that kind of vacancy, it’s like cancer,” said Richard Wozny, a real estate consultant, during an interview Wednesday. “It distorts density and it’s delaying the impact. It raises the question ‘Are we over-building?’”

Mr. Yan, who specified that it’s not possible to know exactly why so many apartments were empty, said data indicate Vancouver is creating neighbourhoods that appear to be very dense, but actually don’t have an active full-time population.

That gives a skewed picture of, for example, the amount of commercial activity they can support.

In Coal Harbour, where up to one in four condos is empty in the tower-dominated waterfront neighbourhood between Stanley Park and the downtown convention centre, the scattered shops in the area often struggle to stay in business. By contrast, the West End, which has a low rate of empty residential units, is bounded by three streets – Davie, Denman, and Robson – that are packed with busy small shops and restaurants.

Mr. Yan said that the high numbers of empty apartments don’t prove there’s a problem with foreign investors, but they do indicate that Vancouver has a large proportion of general investor buyers, be they offshore or Canadian.

Housing analyst Tsur Somerville, director of UBC’s Centre for Urban Economics and Real Estate, said the data he has seen also indicate that Vancouver built more housing in the 2006-2011 period than the number of new households that were added to the city’s ranks.

That means investors. There’s nothing wrong with that, as long as those units are occupied, said Mr. Somerville, also on the panel.

“The problem is vacant units since that’s demand for real estate without housing people.”

Mr. Yan’s analysis entailed isolating the census data on dwellings that showed up as either “unoccupied” or occupied “by a foreign resident and/or by temporarily present persons” on Census Day 2011, which was May 10.

“These units could be non-resident occupied because their occupants were just away for the Census Day, between rental tenants, or moving in a just-opened building, but there is also a chance that they are someone’s pied-à-terre, vacation home or empty investment holding,” observed Mr. Yan.

In the city of Vancouver, the rate of those kinds of dwellings stood at 7.7 per cent overall, with some parts of the downtown as high as 23 per cent. In the city of Toronto, the rate was 5.4 per cent; in Calgary, 5 per cent.

If Vancouver’s “non-resident” category had the same rate as Calgary’s, it would have had only about 16,500 empty units on Census Day – the level to be expected in a regular city, where some part of the housing stock is always going to be empty for one reason or another. Instead, more than 22,000 units showed up in that category. An analysis for the whole Lower Mainland shows that it has between 15,000 and 20,000 more empty units, proportionally, than the Calgary or Toronto metropolitan regions.

 

 

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  • Silly Season

    @Frank Ducote @Everyman @Cheezwiz

    Right you are.

    And here is the London Experience, in a very telling article in this month’s Vanity Fair.

    Read it and weep.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/society/2013/04/mysterious-residents-one-hyde-park-london

    I feel like such a sucker: paying my taxes and not having a maze of offshore covers to enable me live the dolce vida!

    We scrap and moan and try to figure out how to pay for our own infrastructure—and housing and groceries—and then, a blind eye is turned to what is happening via the housing market.

    We are nuts. This isn’t a ‘free society’.

    This is a kleptocracy.

  • rph

    Thanks for the link Silly Season. Sad to say, there are many in our city who would salivate at the chance of a One Hyde Park here.

    @waltyss. Perhaps offshore buyers, with no residency, account for a only small percentage of real estate speculation. Maybe the bigger portion of buyers are residents with one foot in Canada, and the other in say, China.

    They have the sf detached home for the family, and a condo or three for speculation. Even more if they are buying for family members with no residency.

    All the controls on foreign investment will not help this scenario. And what level of government is brave enough to ratchet up taxation on all real estate that is not a principal residence.

  • Glissando Remmy

    Thought of The Night

    “One year later. Different tuxedo, same goat.”

    Frank Ducote #98 Everyman #99 Cheezwiz #100 Silly Season #101
    Right on!

    Read here at #9 #42 #45 plus other interesting comments… deja vu?

    http://francesbula.com/uncategorized/does-vancouver-need-to-rezone-when-it-already-has-lots-of-zoned-capacity/

    For the clever ones now…
    Do you agree with the following?

    …………………………………………………………………

    Why
    Are
    Losers
    The
    Year’s
    Silly
    Shmucks?

    Perhaps
    Iconolagny
    Suggests
    Scatophagous?

    Or
    Feckless
    Fabulist?
    …………………………………………………………………

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

  • waltyss

    rph@102. Maybe it is the things you suggest. My point is that we should find out what the facts are. Many condos that are in the city’s rental pool are owned by Vancouver residents. Probably most. Does this make a difference? I appreciate that it is more fun to make up your facts and your assumptions and then argue, but just for once, it might be useful to determine the actual facts.
    Some like Elizabeth Murphy argue that we are overbuilt. If that is so, what, if any, effect, would not having built the condos or homes owned by off shore buyers make? Little difference, I suspect, but frankly I don’t know and neither do you.
    Ah, my favourite NPA troll, has awoken from his slumber, the hashish has kicked in and he has produced one of those “poems” that only someone who is impaired would consider clever. You know when you arrive late at a party and you are sober and everyone is already drunk. They all think they are being clever and you, unfortunately, see that they are just being stupid.

  • IanS

    FWIW, Bing Thom has issued some clarifications regarding the statistics. The link is in Ms. Bula’s twitter feed.

  • Bill Lee

    Following up on IanS and to bring some of the texts to Frances Bula’s Salon.

    TITLE: Measuring the Presence of Absence: Clarifications and Corrections in the Reportage of the BTAworks’ Foreign Investment in Vancouver Real Estate
    Over few days, media coverage on the SFU Woodwards panel on the Foreign Investment in Vancouver Real Estate has been, well, intense. Whether confirming the triumphs of high density and high amenity Downtown urbanism to affirming the tropes of an increasingly unaffordable global resort city, this coverage marks the interest (and passions) for those who call Vancouver home and their views over the present and future of the City.
    Unfortunately, in certain instances, these stories highlight the need for more cross training between professions as planners ought to take courses in media relations and communications and some journalists could learn about the complexity of presenting social and urban statistics and its limitations. To this end, this blog entry will try to clarify some of the more egregious statements attributed to the SFU panel. Where myth busting was part of the intent of the panel, this entry engages meme crushing…its 21st Century social media equivalent. Complex urban issues often do not fit nicely into a 140 character Twitter news world.

    Here are some clarifications:
    [ I have only given the headings.
    Read full text (1100 words)
    for texts, and links
    B.V. Lee ]

    1) Data Origins of the New Study
    2) Vancouver condos are NOT 25 percent empty.
    3) Non-resident occupied does NOT equal to why
    4) Non-resident occupied does NOT equate to “foreign”
    5) Non-resident occupied unit does NOT necessarily suggest a market availability status.
    6) There were obviously not 35 20 storey empty buildings in Downtown Vancouver.
    7) A minor point occurs with my credentials

    Now read on….
    http://www.btaworks.com/2013/03/25/measuring-the-presence-of-absence-clarifications-and-corrections-in-the-reportage-of-the-btaworks-foreign-investment-in-vancouver-real-estate/

  • Roger Kemble

    May the waffling commence?

    We know that fractional reserve banking is causing havoc worldwide: vis. the current Cyprus debacle! Indeed some see an imminent financial debacle.

    We also know premature breaking down of international borders, (FTA, NAFTA and other socially destructive acronyms), have caused and allowed unscrupulous operators to run rampant at huge national expense.

    For the last decade, at least, Vancouver’s working families have been excluded from the city they were born in and work in: a problem, that, until now has been the subject of indisputable prevarication!

    Vancouver has no essential wealth creating industry to support such astronomic real estate prices! That is the issue in Vancouver.

    We may enjoy all the erudite academic soirées and discussions we attended by the, removed and none effected, but the problem remains, real families cannot afford to live in the city they built and paid for!

    And the the waffling continues?

  • Glissando Remmy

    Roger Kemble wrote this
    “REQUIRED READING”
    in previous post at 107:

    “For the last decade, at least, Vancouver’s working families have been excluded from the city they were born in and work in: a problem, that, until now has been the subject of indisputable prevarication!
    Vancouver has no essential wealth creating industry to support such astronomic real estate prices! That is the issue in Vancouver.
    We may enjoy all the erudite academic soirées and discussions we attended by the, removed and none effected, but the problem remains, real families cannot afford to live in the city they built and paid for!

    I think you penned it perfectly, Roger!

    Waltyss 104…
    LOL, as I said, it’s for the clever ones!
    I’m truly sorry if that triggered menopausal hot flushes in you .. oh, well. 🙁

  • Elizabeth Murphy

    @ waltyss #104 – “Some like Elizabeth Murphy argue that we are overbuilt. If that is so, what, if any, effect, would not having built the condos or homes owned by off shore buyers make? Little difference, I suspect, but frankly I don’t know and neither do you.”

    There are some effects of the current overbuilding that are rather obvious and not rocket science.

    When more affordable older character and heritage buildings are demolished and replaced by more expensive new construction that are left vacant, it inflates overall values and rents that are contributing to the unaffordable nature of Vancouver without housing more people. Just look at all the empty monster-houses being built and left vacant across the city, as Michael Kluckner points out in #6 above.

    If those older character houses had been retained and adaptively reused with secondary suites, there would be less old growth wood structures and demolition going into the landfill, and more people housed, including rentals, using less new resources than new construction materials. This would have reduced our ecological footprint, instead we are increasing it. It also has a social cost to neighbourhood character and community displacement.

    Many of the new vacant units are condos in towers. Towers are the least energy efficient form of development because they are made from concrete and glass and require elevators. One energy consultant I spoke with said towers have the equivalent energy efficiency as castles in the middle-ages of R2 to R4. To leave these vacant and yet sucking energy and resources, as either an investment vehicle or a second part time home for someone, is again greatly increasing our ecological footprint.

    Overbuilding is not green.

    Overbuilding more supply that is left vacant, because we don’t need that kind of supply, is not making things more affordable. It is making it more expensive due to the speculative nature of this supply.

    What this shows is that more supply will not bring affordability when the demand is so skewed by a false speculative mostly foreign market that is not affordable within the local economy.

    And finally, it also means that the manufactured urgency to rezone and redevelop the entire city all at once is false. We are in fact doing Vancouver incredible damage, becoming less green and less affordable, not more.

    Unless we change what we are doing, history will look back on how we took one of the most liveable places and turned it into a mess.

  • brilliant

    @Bill Lee 106-all of which makes you wonder why some level of gov’t doesn’t keep proper track of foreign ownership. What are they afraid of finding?

  • Bill Lee

    @Brilliant #110
    Did you read Andy Yan’s caveats? He was careful the first time around, but everyone heard what they wanted to.

    Afraid of? That the empty condos are held by Vancouverites in the main, with some Americans, and that the real estate market is dead– “It’s stone dead…. This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! ‘E’s expired and gone to meet ‘is maker! ‘E’s a stiff! Bereft of life, ‘e rests in peace!”
    … and other lack of confidence in B.C.’s low growth opportunities.
    See the data on housing turnover in the City.

  • Silly Season

    Bang on, @Bill Lee #111

    That’s the problem with what essentially is a ‘one industry’ town.

    We need a far more robust and diverse economic base. But, if our history is any guide, we will just keep exploiting one ‘resource’ till we screw it up.

  • Ned

    🙂 Glissy 103
    Got that. Wahahaha.. LMAO!!! I’ll second the message!

  • Cheezwiz

    Not wanting to hi-jack the thread, but for those who have spare time, I highly recommend the poignant article at this link from Geist Magazine. It’s lengthy, but well worth the read as it illustrates everything we are losing in Vancouver:
    http://www.geist.com/articles/lives-of-the-house/
    The number of perfectly livable houses that are being demolished all over the city is staggering.

    A Vancouver resident has also begun documenting demolitions of heritage homes in her neighborhood on Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/VancouverVanishes

  • Elizabeth Murphy

    @ Bill Lee #111 – The summary of Andy Yan’s points do not reflect that it does confirm that 22% of Coal Harbour and 18% of Yaletown are unoccupied and/or non-resident owned.
    If this speculative market is dead, then why are we continuing to rezone for more ghost towers?

    In the 2006 Census there was 20,000 units unoccupied and/or non-resident owned, and in 2011 Census 22,000, an increase of 2000 units. The number keeps rising and yet they keep rezoning for more…

  • Bill Lee

    You might look at Nathan Crompton’s analysis of the issue, (3 mentions of Rennie), at:

    http://themainlander.com/2013/03/25/empty-condos-and-foreign-investors-sign-of-the-times-or-synonyms-for-racism/
    By Nathan Crompton On March 25, 2013

  • Bill McCreery

    @ Elizabeth 109.

    “And finally, it also means that the manufactured urgency to rezone and redevelop the entire city all at once is false. We are in fact doing Vancouver incredible damage, becoming less green and less affordable, not more.

    Unless we change what we are doing, history will look back on how we took one of the most liveable places and turned it into a mess.”

    Well said. Two other factors pertinent to a discussion about overbuilding are:

    1) Offshore buyers often have deep pockets and they have the effect of ‘bidding up’ real estate prices.

    2) It doesn’t take much change in demand to increase or decrease prices, whether retail or real estate. Although offshore buyers may be a small part or the demand, that small part has a much larger effect on pricing.

    Jonathan Baker has actually hit the real mark. If the offshore effect is negatively impacting our neighbourhoods and quality of life and affordability it needs to be regulated. Period.