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Paris a bicycle paradise? Hmm, not quite

June 19th, 2013 · 140 Comments

And here is my account of nine days in Paris, using Velib for various trips around town (though not all).

Completely anecdotal, with no statistics except my own experience.

So, I love bike-share systems. They make it so much easier to hop on a bike and get around than the usual procedure of tracking down a bike-rental store, usually far from wherever it is you are, and having to pay a full-day rate when all you want to do is maybe get from Point A to Point B.

In terms of access, Velib is great. Within two blocks of our apartment near Republique, there were three Velib stations with about 20 bikes apiece. There were always plenty there whenever I wanted to ride.

But what about riding around the actual streets? That’s another question. I never did manage to get a map that showed cycling routes or Velib stations in my time there. One Google source told me I could get such information at bike stores. The bike stores didn’t have them and told me to go to the local city hall. (Each arrondissement has its own city hall, so 20 of them.) I went and all they had were the Velib cards that you could load up for access. They said I should contact Velib itself, which seemed convoluted for a one-week stay.

That meant that I ended up riding the way most tourists and newcomers do — based on whatever signs, painted lanes and other clues I could find on the street. (As I’ve discovered in  other bike-share cities, those street signs, painted messages on the road, green arrows, and cyclist symbols  are invaluable as you’re making your way ad hoc through the city.) In spite of all that, my rides were, if I may say so, hairy. And I’m someone who is relatively adventurous on the street, so I can’t imagine what it might be like for the more timid.

When the signs were there, it was great. On some of the big streets, eg. Boulevard de Sebastopol, which cuts a big north-south swath from Gare de l’Est to Ile de la Cite, there was a wide separated lane. Of course, as with all the big streets, that was shared with buses, taxis, and scooters. It was fine if there was not too much traffic. When a friend and I used a lane like that on the street running between the Seine and the Louvre, however, it was intimidating to be mashed in between a couple of buses and five motorcycles.

 

It was a mixed bag on the smaller streets. Frequently, there were signs indicating that bikes were permitted to go the wrong way down a one-way street. Other times there weren’t.

 

In the end, I never made a trip where I didn’t end up going the wrong way down a one-way street, unsure of wheether that was actually allowed. I did any number of other outlaw things — riding on the sidewalk if necessaary, running red lights, weaving in and out of dense pedestrian crowds. It seemed to be what everyone of every mode of transportation does in Paris. Cars park on the sidewalk; pedestrians and scooters invade the bike lanes,  and everyone in general just muscles their way into the space they need.

 

Surprisingly, it does all seem to work. I discovered that Paris had zero bicycle fatalities last year (compared to 16 in London, something that the British papers were making hay of at one point). I can only assume it’s due to a few circumstances: 1. People are eager to ride bikes, no matter how hairy it is, because it’s ultimately a better solution for them than irregular or out-of-the-way transit and impossible cars. 2. Paris has made some efforts to make space for bikes, in spite of the fierce competition for space on city streets that   it is experiencing along with every other city and 3. People on the road in Paris do pay a lot of attention to what’s going on around them, which means that when a cyclist ploughs out into cars turning right against the signal (as my friend did inadvertently), everyone watchfully makes way.

 

Still, it’s far from what I’d call a cyclist heaven. I think those titles probably go to the relatively small city centres of Amsterdam and Copenhagen, because car traffic there has always been limited and the it’s easier to carve space for the bicycle out of that geographically confined central territory. In a bigger city like Paris, with more people and more traffic, it’s all far more complicated.

 

One disappointing aspect, too, was that in spite of the efforts with Velib, Paris’s efforts to close down roads occaasionally in order to accommodate bicycles seem to be in retreat. When I was there four years ago, major boulevards like Beaumarchais were closed on Sunday. This time, the streets closed on Sunday were either in heavy pedestrian areas — which meant they essentially became pedestrian streets, impossible to cycle through — or they were the lower roads along the Seine — nothing too disruptive for cars.

A few final observations:

1. Yes, it happens sometimes that you arrive at a station and there is no place to park. Following the cue of others, I just waited until someone showed up to take a bike out and then parked. It only took a few minutes.

2. Keeping the bike for longer than 30 minutes mounts up. A friend who couldn’t find a station near the Tuileries ended up paying an extra 7 euros for her 90 minute visit there, when she just locked it up and kept it until she was ready to move on.

3. Checking to make sure the seat isn’t loose, the brakes are working and the tires aren’t flat is always a good idea.

Otherwise, it was all a fun, though occasionally startling experience, and a great way to get home instead of walking after a couple of glasses of wine at the end of the night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • waltyss

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouverites-back-separated-bike-lane-network-poll-says/article12942975/#dashboard/follows/
    Some may find it interesting. The usual suspects will tell us that the poll was flawed because it was not restricted to seniors who feel money should only be spent on roads.

  • gman

    Waltyss 101
    From your link,
    “Despite a majority of support for bike lanes in general, many respondents agreed with these concerns. More than two-thirds of respondents (70 per cent) said the bike lanes “have made parking more difficult,” for example, and more than half (55 per cent) said they “have hurt local businesses.”

    You see Waltyss none of us are against biking,although we are constantly painted as such,what we have a problem with is when they are put where they don’t belong.And if anyone should even ask if this might not be the best route they are attacked and told an increasing list of BS about either the children or the elderly or how it will save the healthcare system or why cant we be like the Danes cause their way ahead of us,what a load of tosh. They don’t give a crap whether or not it might kill a small business or increase congestion, they want their bike lane no matter what! And then they have the hubris to say in their biased studies that a 10% loss in income is minimal, don’t you think that decision of what is minimal should be made by the owner of the business ?
    Its not the people who question the route that are the problem its the lobby who wont even come to the table because they’ve been trained to never give an inch.
    It may sound a little Darwinian but if you cant ride a bike outside a separated bike lane maybe you should take a bus.

  • gman

    CK #79
    I have no idea what your accusatory little rant is about.But you say…..” The bottom line is that these improvements are based on sound fiscal and social principles.”
    Are you speaking of the studies that show business will lose 10 to 25 % ?
    And I think you might have meant “socialist principles” rather than social.

    Then you go on to accuse me of some secret ulterior motive.
    ” So, we are forced to wonder what reason you would have to put up such a consistent opposition to these plans? What benefit does it bring to you or the city?”
    Well Chris I can say definitely that I have never profited from anything to do with bike lanes……..can you ?

    And just a point of interest for you Chris,I probably put more miles on my old ten speed in the seventies than you will in you’re entire life and when mountain biking began I and my friends broke most of the trails at Whistler that people enjoy today,and we skied 100 days a year to boot.

  • Chris Keam

    “Well Chris I can say definitely that I have never profited from anything to do with bike lanes……..can you ?

    Again, insight into my work is available with a quick Google search. When you are willing to provide your real identity and come clean on your motivations, then you might have the right to demand others respond to your inquiries about personal information.

    “And just a point of interest for you Chris,I probably put more miles on my old ten speed in the seventies than you will in you’re entire life and when mountain biking began I and my friends broke most of the trails at Whistler that people enjoy today,and we skied 100 days a year to boot.”

    And this has what to do with bike lanes exactly?

  • brilliant

    @waltsyss 101-take note a greater number if taxpayers thought bike lanes were not a good use of money.

    The coming electric car revolution is going to deflate the bike lobby’s bubble of selfrighteousness.

  • gman

    CK#104
    So Chris is this your double speak admission that you profit from your promotion of bike lanes?
    But yet again you try and fall back on your same old canard of who am I and why don’t I use my real name. Well Chris the reason is you are not to be trusted,you’re ilk have shown over and over again that you are nothing more than vindictive and that you could care less about the collateral damage you do as long as you further your agenda.
    Life in this country will be much better after we defund the state broadcaster( the CBC) or they stop hiring hacks like you.You have shown yourself to be nothing but a shill.
    Chris you are an embarrassment to this country and nothing more than a sell out .I hope you’re proud of yourself.

    This is what the people really think about what you seem to think is so wonderful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgXnmGItx6E

    Chris you’re just a poser not a biker at all.

  • Chris Keam

    “But yet again you try and fall back on your same old canard of who am I and why don’t I use my real name.”

    Only one of us is trying to hide their motivations Gman. For those of us who know who you are, it’s obvious why.

  • boohoo

    “Chris you are an embarrassment to this country”

    Hey well at least you’re not blowing this wildly out of proportion, so that’s good.

  • teririch

    @Chris Keam:

    As the Vancouver Area Cycling Coalition’s communications coordinator you do have a vested interest in how this plays out.

    After all, the VACC gets funding from the taxpayers to promote their cause and I would imagine, pay wages.

  • teririch

    Did anyone happen to attend the June 27th, Town Hall Meeting on the subject fo the bike lanes down Cornwall and Point Grey roads?

    I see signage popping up in the area asking Vancouver City Council to please slow down on rubber stamping this project.

  • teririch

    Oh, one more.

    It would be nice if the scoflaw cyclists paid their tickets/fines.

    $330K outstanding.

  • Chris Keam

    @Teririch:

    Please check your facts if you are going to discuss my professional life. Seriously, it’s really not that hard and would be the smallest measure of courtesy one might rightfully expect. Haven’t held that (temporary 3 month) position since the start of 2010 and it had nothing to do with bike lanes.

  • boohoo

    Stop hiding CK! What nefarious cyclo-fascist plots are you secretly harbouring, just waiting for the perfect time to unleash on the poor unsuspecting masses. Tell us! Clearly that 3 month brain-washing has turned you into a some kind of one man cyclo-loving sleeper cell, cleverly posting comments on a blog as a way to incite revolt or at least really irritate some people. A black scar on this nation you are!

    You post information and sources like those so called facts are supposed to convince anyone of your obvious deep ceded anti-Canadian, anti-democracy, anti-freedom, anti-Vancouver, anti-cars, anti-pedestrians, anti-skateboarders, anti-business cyclist-first agenda. Expose yourself! Tell me everything about your personal and professional life so I can judge you! I, here on the internet anonymously demand this of you! If you do not provide everything for me to judge you I can only assume my deepest fears are 100% true and therefore everything you say or do is tantamount to treason. Banishment from the internets I say!

  • waltyss

    CK, it’s not fair, I tell you, it’s not fair. I have done my damnsest to bait gman and notwithstanding my best efforts, have nver had him tell me that I was an embarassment to this country. Being insulted by the looney tune old geezer right wingnuts gives you street cred. When gspot man spits at you, well, intelligent people want to converse with you, beautiful women come on to you; Mme. Bula calls you for your opinion.
    Congratulations, Chris, you’ve arrived. And I’m still waiting for gspotman to tell me that I am an embarassment to this country. It’s just not fair!

  • Tessa

    @gman #106

    This is probably one of the lowest points in the comment history of this forum. And that is quite the achievement. The comment’s meannness and nastyness is frankly surpassed by few. Hopefully after a few days rest we can quit the stupid name calling and get back to discussing issues, not secret motives, vendettas, personal attacks and conspiracy theories. That goes for everyone, of course, but at this low point, particularly for you, Gman.

  • teririch

    @Chris Keam #112

    You said to Google you, so I did.

    That is the bio you posted along with an article to an on-line site.

    In its whole:

    Chris Keam is the Vancouver Area Cycling Coalition’s communications coordinator, a freelance writer and video editor. Visit his website and blog at http://www.chriskeam.com for links to additional articles and videos on cycling and other topics.

  • Agustin

    @ teririch

    Let me see if I understand your theory. Please correct me where I am wrong.

    You believe that:

    Chris Keam wants money. He thinks about it for a while and comes to the conclusion that the best way to get money is working for a cycling advocacy group in Vancouver (where salaries for communications coordinators are highly lucrative). He gets a job there. But that’s not enough: he now wants more money. He thinks about it for a while and comes to the conclusion that– and here’s the genius of it all– the best way to get more money is to write articles and comment on blog posts in support of cycling infrastructure so that the public will be duped into believing that cycling is an activity worth supporting, so the government will expand its grants to the cycling advocacy group, and naturally Chris, being an employee of said advocacy group, will get rich off the taxpayer’s dime.

    Have I got it about right?

  • brilliant

    Bicycle + paradise does not compute. Wafting through the streets of Paris in a Bentley Mulsanne is a whole lot closer to nirvana.

  • teririch

    @Agustin # 117:

    Nice shot across the bow, but a complete miss.

    Good try though.

  • teririch

    One thing that does seem a bit obvious- those that are pushing the hardest for separated bike lanes and changes to traffic patterns don’t typically live or commute through the affected areas.

    They may travel through from time to time – but are not frequent flyers that have to deal with the changes on a day to day basis.

    And again I note the growing number of signs posted up in the Cornwall, Point Grey, MacDonald Street area urging City Council to slow down on the decision to what will, screw up the traffic and living conditions in this area.

  • Agustin

    @ teririch #119: Honestly, that’s what I’ve gathered from your posts. If I’ve misunderstood, please explain which part.

    @120: You’re making stuff up. Have a look at the stats. Kitsilano and Point Grey have among the higher bike mode shares in the city.

    Believe it or not, those are real human beings on those bicycles: they live in your neighbourhood (and mine), they shop in your grocery store (and mine), and they go to your local school (and mine).

  • Threadkiller

    @ Brilliant #118:
    You can have the Bentley, thanks. Paris was made for walking. Those smoked windows and plush seats would keep you from seeing (and interacting with) one of the most alluring cities on the planet. It would be like sitting in your living room with the shades drawn on a gorgeous sunny afternoon. One night a few years ago I walked– without hurrying, in proper flaneurian fashion– from the Lamarck-Caulincourt Metro station on the north slope of Montmartre to our hotel in the Rue Cler neighbourhood in the 7th, setting out about 1:30 AM after missing the last Metro. It took me about 3 hours. The streets were all but deserted and I was able to experience Paris in a way I never had before. It will always remain among the most treasured experiences of my life.

  • teririch

    @Agustin #121:

    I would suggest Cornwall and Point Grey having bike numbers is due to the beaches in the area – deswtination points,versus those that commute daily.

    It is seasonal traffic.

    And for those that may commute, you can greatly see the increase in bus ridership during the rainy season, or almost any rainy day for that matter.

    It is very easy to manipulate numbers to suite a ’cause’. Including petition numbers, demographics, ridership etc. Cherry picking key points/numbers is very common.

  • Frank Ducote

    Threadkiller@122: +1.

    You are so correct about Paris being a city best experienced on foot. In fact, using Google Earth one can see that the straight line radius of the historical walled city (now the peripherique) is almost exactly that of a fairly rigourous one-hour walk – about 5000 metres – in all directions from the Ile de la Cite. The topography and medieval pattern of the historical city does not allow straight line travel very often, except for the von Hausmann grand boulevards, of course.

    I’m willing to guess the centres of most European capital cities can fit within such a circle as well.
    (Diligent researchers like Lewis or Voony may want to corroborate or embellish on this notion.)

    As you have noted, Parisuan flaneur-style strolling can take much longer but is infinitely more pleasurable at any time of day or night. Late night is particularly enjoyable, given the general quietness.

  • Agustin

    @ 123: Actually, the stats from Stats Canada are for travel to work only. Yes, there are more bikes there due to the beaches, etc., but even if you only look at the residents of those areas who commute to work, the bicycle is quite popular there. And with better cycling infrastructure, it will be even more popular and accessible to people of all ages and abilities. (Including beach-goers. They deserve a safe and comfortable trip too, don’t they?)

    You’re right: manipulating numbers is easy. Who is doing that?

    Transit service is also very important, yes. I have been on a full bus along Cornwall many times, frustratingly stuck behind immobile cars. It would be nice if we could use our roads more efficiently, to move people and goods rather than vehicles.

  • Bill Lee

    @Frank Ducote // Jul 9, 2013 at 10:05 am #124
    The ESPON project (European Spatial Planning Observation Network), of the EU attempts to measure urban regions and agglomerations, but (quickly) I can find no simple table.

    But making the broad assumption that cities are a fungal circle around their historic centre, your Paris of a 5 km radius would be Pi x radius^2 or 3.14 x (5 x 5) = 78 square kilometers corresponds to the 100 km2 in this table extracted to/from Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_cities_proper_by_population_density

    And scanning down the list one can find similar areas for Barcelona, Naples, etc.
    There is also the Paris “Large Urban Zone” of 12,080 km^2 which we don’t consider

    In the UN ESCAP latest U.N. Demographic Yearbook table 8 Population des capitales et des villes de 100 000 habitants ou plus: dernière année disponible, 1992-2011
    http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/dyb/dyb2011.htm
    For “City Proper” as they term it, some examples:
    Graz 128, Linz 98, but Vienna 415. Aix-en-Province 186, Marseille 241, Nimes 162, Toulouse 118 etc.

  • Bill Lee

    Madrid, where our Salon keeper Frances is now, has a City Proper area of 6058 km^2 (pop 3. 2 million) and therefore [square root of (6058/pi)] a radius of 40 km, not your Paris ideal of [square root of (105 km^2 / pi)] 5.8 km radius.

  • Frank Ducote

    Bill Lee – I’m referring only to the small historical centre of such capital cities, say mid-19th century at the latest. Not the vastly larger agglomerations they are today. Clearly they are not now walkable – or horse-carraigeable – settlements. That’s also why they generally have extensive transit systems.

  • Threadkiller

    Messrs. Lee & Ducote:
    Probably few large cities have as clearly marked a demarcation between the centre and periphery as does Paris, thanks to the Peripherique. I must confess that despite having been there five times I have yet to venture into the banlieues, unless visits to the Clignancourt flea markets count. I keep meaning to go out to La Defense for a closer look at the architecture ( I can think of no other reason to go there), or for a first-hand investigative look at some of the epicentres of social unrest northeast of the city centre, like Blanc-Mesnil, but I haven’t made it yet– there are a multitude of more compelling things to do inside the Peripherique, and only so much time to spare on the average visit.

    While inner/outer Paris may be easy to define thanks largely to infrastructure, it is much more difficult to apply such an analysis to cities like Berlin or London. In each city there is certainly an historic “centre”– more clearly defined in London, perhaps– but outside of that immediate area one encounters what amounts to a vast number of smaller town centers, many of great interest. One of the many, many differences between Vancouver and the larger, older, immeasurably more sophisticated cities it laughably thinks it rivals is that a visit to those cities’ outer town centres are often every bit as rewarding in their own way as is the centre of the city itself. Hence strolls through Hampstead or Brixton (preferably with a good guidebook) can have their own distinctive fascination, so much so that they rival and in some ways surpass a stroll around Westminster. But I can’t think of any reason why a vistor to Vancouver would wish to explore the bucolic charms of, say, south Burnaby. Perhaps if they were sociologically inclined, with an interest in suburban development patterns…?

  • gman

    Looks like the city is trying to hide the decline.
    http://604commuter.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/disappearing-facts-disappearing-cyclists/

  • Frank Ducote

    Mon ami Threadkiller – Like you I’ve never gone past the periperique either, even to La Defense.

    There are in fact many many formerly walled cities and towns in Europe whose centres in medieval times roughly match the general pattern of Paris – flattish in the middle, on a navigable water body, roughly concentric or star-shaped in plan. These include Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona’s Gotic Quarter, Dubrovnik and Brussels, to name but a few.

    I’m glad Madame Bula triggered this discussion of why some places may or may not be (presently) good for cycling. In any event, all of the above are great for walking, my preferred mode of travel.

  • spartikus

    Looks like the city is trying to hide the decline.

    The information in the post, which claims statistics have been removed, is false. The complete stats 2009-2013 are available on the CoV cycling statistics webpage and is clearly marked as such.

    I know it’s mysterious to some, but sometimes websites are “updated” with the most “current information” while older information is “archived”.

  • gman

    Nice try sparty but its obvious they changed the page because they had to hide the percentage drop at a glance,now we have to root through a PDF to find the info.And here is another oddity.
    http://604commuter.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/bb-cycling-decline-since-1994.jpg

  • spartikus

    It would be helpful if “604 Communter Files” linked to the original source. As it is we have a truncated screenshot that – as with the previous screenshot – likely excludes pertinent information.

    Alas for you, the graphic does not state there were 3500 cyclists a day over the Burrard Street Bridge “a decade ago” [difficult as it is to determine with the shock graphic overlaid], only that there are 3500 cyclists a day. This doesn’t match the data in the table [which oddly has the left margin missing], but without the original source the audience at homes doesn’t know if this is an accurate representation or a hodgepodge of various graphics from various times thrown together (header, etc, obviously added after the fact).

    604 Commuter Files has nothing to lose and everything to gain by linking to the original source. Transparency, and all that.

  • Roger Kemble

    I’ve never gone past the periperique either, even to La Defense.Frank @ #131. Try Ivelines for mind boggling post modern, à la Charles Jenks!

    On my first visit to Gay Paree, 1946, I>Nuelly sur Siene (were Corb lived) was, believe it or not, the limit of the northern suburb.

    La Défense (La Grande Arche, visible from Arc de Triomphe on a clear day) is most certainly not Belle Epoque Siglo veintiuno!

    I keep meaning to go out to La Defense for a closer look at the architecture.”
    Threadkiller @ #129 Don’t bother. The architecture is what we can expect when the Emily Carr contract is dished out: you’ll have enough of it then. Indeed, don’t wait, the font of twenty-first century banalities surrounds you!

    As for containment within a Peripherique, taking the RER in from Ivelines trying to decipher post modern as build in Saint-Quentin, does such exist anymore?

    But making the broad assumption that cities are a fungal circle around their historic centre.” A broad assumption Bill @ #126 when especially trying to decipher the view from another RER!

    Usually large European cities, and those historically influenced by, accrete, asymmetrically, and grow by subsuming their contiguous villages. I’m thinquing, particularly Nuelly but many of the outer, i.e. La Courneuve , Créteil, banlieues too.

    The English banlieues or rookeries, as Charles Dickens called them, are now gentrified big time. If it wasn’t for the pub I wouldn’t recognize the gentrified Elephant and Castle!

    Hence strolls through Hampstead or Brixton (preferably with a good guidebook)Threadkiller @ #129can have their own distinctive fascination, so much so that they rival and in some ways surpass a stroll around Westminster.

    Whooh-ah: Hampstead, Brixton, Westminster all in one gulp you’re talking John Keats, Fagin and Edward Longshanks!

    And . . .

    I’m glad Madame Bula triggered this discussion of why some places may or may not be (presently) good for cycling.Frank @ #131 except she has plunged us way, way out of our depth!

  • Bill Lee

    @Roger Kemble // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:44 am #135

    It’s like “assume a spherical cow” in making thermodynamic assumptions.
    See “Vaca esférica” in Wikipedia and so on.

  • teririch

    @Agustin#125

    There are a lot of seniors living in this area and I really don’t see them dumping their cars to jump on a bike – which inlcudes a seniors hospital/care home on Cornwall. (Also need to wonder about the negative impact it will have on property values for houses effected)

    Of the 20 units in the condo building I live in, 1 person uses their bike for commuting. Most everyone else has a car – again, I don’t see that changing.

    But as Ijust read that Roberston is moving his family to Kits – I guess the conversation over the bike lane is useless – it will be rubber stamped all the way – more sham consultation process for optics only.

  • Voony

    Franck Ducote@124 says

    historical walled city (now the peripherique) is almost exactly that of a fairly rigourous one-hour walk – about 5000 metres – in all directions from the Ile de la Cite.

    and then is the banlieue, …etymology of the word:
    “to ban to one league”… “league” (lieue in French) a measure defined by the distance achieved by one hr walk…so yes, here we are.

    Paris, Berlin and London.
    Paris was already 250 to 500,000 souls strong in the middle age, when London was a mere village of 25,000-50,000 souls…and Berlin was not even on the map.

    Inner Paris, (the one lieue radius) was already densely populated before the industrial revolution (neither London or Berlin).

    So Paris is 106km2 since 1860, and the city of London, 2.6km2 (in Xiii century, Paris was already 4km2)….
    Napoleon will create the department of the Seine, 480km2, in 1794.
    The londonian equivalent could be the county of London, created in 1880: 330km2.

    Paris has been a walled city as late as ~1920, privilege of a continental city…cities on an island on less prone to foreign invasion…so again the strong dichotomy between the Paris and the banlieue…

    The peripherique, is build on what use to be a no man’s land (a glacis)…It was supposed to be a “zone non ædificandi”:

    After 1920, It was laregely a slum…the Bd peripherique was planned around that time,
    (Grands boulevards, boulevards exterieurs, all are replacing diferent generation of city walls
    thought it will be built only circa 1960.

    The defense: Pairs has a complicate replationship with it…Eventually la defense is what has allowed Pairs to stay an Alpha city, and to largely keep it’s historic district character…

    about the urban integration of La defense into Paris:

    http://voony.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/an-avenue-in-neuilly/

  • Frank Ducote

    Much appreciated, Voony.

  • Agustin

    @teririch,

    “I don’t see that changing”

    I understand where you’re coming from. We’ve designed our cities to travel by car. It’s difficult to imagine a future where people change from driving a car for every trip (or even just to get to work) to using a different mode of transportation.

    But the change does happen. It takes changes to infrastructure, it takes awareness, but mostly it takes time. A hundred years ago, some people were adamant that the introduction of cars to the transportation system would lead to drastic and terrible effects. Today, some people are adamant that the introduction of bicycles to the transportation system will lead to drastic and terrible effects.

    We’ve seen the consequences of relying on the automobile in cities: health problems, huge infrastructure costs, environmental degradation, etc. We simply can’t carry on that way.

    We’ve also seen the positive impacts of using bicycles more: improved health, cheaper infrastructure, more livable neighbourhoods, etc.

    Nobody’s arguing that everyone needs to ride a bicycle all the time. Those elderly people you refer to will not be forced onto a bicycle if they don’t want to use one. And nobody’s saying you can’t continue to use a car.

    Speaking of people being cut off from the transportation system due to their age, though, let’s look at kids. In a city that’s dominated by the car, if it’s illegal for you to drive, you are severely disconnected from a lot of places, and dependent on your parents to get around. The goal is to make the city more accessible by providing more safe and comfortable options for people of all ages and abilities: the proverbial 8-80 group. A proper network of cycling infrastructure helps provide these options.

    Furthermore, this change is not being made without debate. You and I, and several other commenters, are debating it here on this and other blogs. There is lots of coverage in the media. The City has done a lot of direct consultation with the public, including the people that live and work in the neighbourhood. In fact, the City has changed its plans in direct response to that consultation. You may not like the proposed changes, but that doesn’t mean consultation isn’t happening.

    “I’m not being consulted and I’m angry about it” is sometimes a valid complaint, but if there are numerous open houses, opportunities to speak in council meetings, and countless media outlets publishing a wide range of opinions, then honestly “I’m not being consulted and I’m angry about it” starts to sound more like “I’m not getting my way and I’m angry about it.”

    You’ve written a lot of conjecture, using phrases like “I don’t see that changing”, “I guess”, and “I wonder”. Like I said above, I understand what you are saying. But the fact is that things do change – cycling is growing as a mode of transportation in Vancouver and in cities around the world. Studies have been done on property values, and if anything cycling infrastructure slightly increases property values. (If you’re worried that housing is too expensive, I don’t think that making a neighbourhood less livable is a good solution, and don’t forget that cycling is a lot cheaper for each user as well. You can do some quick math and figure out how much more you could afford to spend on your house if you didn’t spend what you do on a car. For the average car owner, $10k per year on the car translates into a couple hundred thousand on a mortgage, depending on the exact interest rate.)

    Car traffic into and out of the downtown peninsula is at the lowest levels in forty or fifty years. And yet, population is up and economic development is up. This is because the City made decisions, controversial at the time, to make the downtown more accessible by walking, cycling, and public transit.

    Look 10, 20, 30 years down the road (pun intended!). Not everyone’s riding a bike, but then not everyone’s driving a car or taking the bus, either. It would be nice to see a good, healthy mix. Going around the corner for some milk? Put on your shoes and enjoy the walk. Going to another neighbourhood to visit a friend? Hop on your bike or hop on the bus and enjoy the ride. Going to the hardware store to rent some power tools? Grab a car and get what you need.

    I can picture it.