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Northeast False Creek residents plan forum on casino

January 19th, 2011 · 7 Comments

There’s a community-sponsored forum on the casino being planned for Feb. 7, as a post from Sean Bickerton has informed us. I’m reposting his info here for those rare people who don’t read all the comments. Here’s his full set of comments. I am assuming this will be in addition to the public meeting that is now being organized by the city, as per a decision at council yesterday.

The proposed casino expansion will triple the number of tables and addictive slot machines from the number currently in Edgewater Casino. Triple.

Instead of a locally-owned business responsive to community concerns as Edgewater was, we will have a massive Vegas gambling corporation that has made absolutely no effort to reach out to the local community or address our many concerns.

They are also contributing no local amenities other than the Smithe Street extension designed to deliver traffic to their door and not connect to Quebec as originally promised.

They have made no provision to provide daycare for their own shift workers, downloading this cost onto the local community when daycare slots are rare and heavily subsidized by the city and non-profits.

And finally, we have all seen reports on TV about the failure of the program to help protect problem gamblers. Yet the staff report indicates this casino will impact nearly 25,000 Vancouverites with that devastating, family-destroying problem.

The RCMP have raised very serious concerns about money-laundering and the failure of existing casinos to report large cash transactions as required.

There is no need for this massive expansion of gambling in downtown Vancouver, one of the most beautiful cities in the world. This huge behemoth in our midst will change the character of our city forever.

My simple suggestion is to keep Edgewater the same size and allow the new owners to move it nearer the stadium. It already makes millions of dollars every year for the owners and provides $10 million to city coffers annually as well.

I should add that a broad-based coalition is opposing the casino expansion and we will be hosting a public forum on February 7 to debate the merits of this proposal. Save the Date!

Our group includes the False Creek Residents Association, Strathcona Residents Association, Grandview Woodland Area Council, BC Charitable Gaming Association representing charities and non-profits, and the Alliance for the Arts in Vancouver. Others are joining us and I encourage anyone interested in joining our fight to contact us at

Website: http://dontgamblevancouver.wordpress.com

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  • Morven

    There is one real question to be asked.

    The casinos flow a lot of cash to the provincial government. While nominally eschewing a paternalistic government approach, our provincial government, or so it seems, can do just about anything it wants with this cash.

    Undeniably, some of it flows back to the community but much may go into general revenue

    If we are to have an international destination casino in our city, we are entitled to obtain from the provincial government a written undertaking of how the casino proceeds will be applied.

    The provincial government cannot have it both ways. It cannot on one hand trumpet the great benefits that casinos bring to communities then move these benefits elsewhere to suit a particular policy approach

    Some transparency please. And an economic benefits agreement with the casino operator (not with BCLC).
    -30-

  • Max

    Isn’t the Edgewter owned and operated by that big ‘Vegas’ gambling corporation?

    I am pretty sure they (Paragon?) bought them out when it ran into financial trouble a few years back.

  • Joe Just Joe

    My understanding is that Max is correct, the existing casino is already allowed by them. I’m not a big fan of Casinos having seen the damage that they can inflict on an entire family. I’m not sure that stopping it though will solve it either, there are already casinos and other gambling avenues available to continue inflicting damage to those 25K people. I also wouldn’t discount the fact that the money just goes into General Revenue, that general revenue still pays for things that we would be paying for otherwise. Don’t know what the solution is, but not sure stopping this will be it.

  • Glissando Remmy

    The Thought of The Day

    “Vancouver…a Casino at the Edge of the Water.”

    For all of you out there who oppose a Casino in Vancouver, I have news for you, take a deep breath now, here it is ‘You already are in the Casino business, people!’

    Most popular games in Vancouver are the Real Estate ones: ‘Hike’em Prices Up’, ‘Fire Sale or Bust’, ‘Heritage Piece of Crap’, ‘View or not View’, ‘Screw Your Neighbour’, ‘The Mandarin Effect’, ‘Gregor’s Greed City by 2020’ and my favourite ‘Off Shore You!’.

    To understand this, you need some perspective though. Take a Helijet ride, or a Balloon flight, or hike up Grouse Mountain and look back, see for yourself.

    Vancouver City is the Vault…where you the taxpayers, exchange your monies for chips.
    Vision…the current Mob controlling the Vault.
    VPD are the eyes in the skies and on the floor.
    Concord, Millenium, Concert, Intracorp., Polygon…are the Pit Bosses.
    Bob Rennie, Remax, Georgia Realty…are the Gavroche paper boys screaming ‘EXTRA, EXTRA!’ selling you the latest silk stockings and suspender belts.
    Frances, Alex, Michael, Jeff, Allen…are your familiar hosts and tourist guides.
    Ballem, Aufochs, Judd, Roozbahani …are only the latest jackpot winners.

    Good publicity?!? You think?
    Some may say it’s an ‘insider job’ other say ‘pure luck’, I say ‘coincidence’…well, I don’t believe in coincidences, at least not in the ones that you cannot manoeuvre.

    You be the judge and… executioner.

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

  • Gentle Bossanova

    Monaco has a casino. ONE casino. B.C. should strive for the same. Find a place, ONE place, and put a single establishment on it.

    A high school buddy made it through the training and became a Black Jack dealer in a Vancouver casino walking distance from his home. Terrible job, horrible hours, really odd clientele he reported. He quit.

    We should do the same while we’re ahead.

  • Norman

    Casinos. They have to be treated regularly for flea infestations, something they probably don’t want known, along with the two issues they really don’t like to talk about: children abandoned in cars while their parents play and loan sharking. As to problem gamblers, let me quote a casino executive: “If they weren’t playing here, they’d be somewhere else.” There is far too close a relationship between the operator (government) and the regulator (government). The issues that really matter to casino operators are increasing the “spend” and keeping costs down.

  • Ian

    Sean could have asked Paragon’s lobbyist all about it at the NPA fundraiser in 2008. Paragon bought a table. It’s in the disclosures.

    And the zoning isn’t in place. Edgewater is operating under temporary zoning. It was all explained to the NPA council in May 2006.