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Mayors say transit referendum could hijack civic elections if held same day

January 14th, 2014 · 172 Comments

The problems in staging this ‘let’s wing it’ referendum just keep going on and on. The latest.

 

 

Lower Mainland mayors say local elections could get hijacked this fall if the province carries through with its plan to hold a referendum the same day on how to fund transit improvements.

The region’s 21 municipalities could face a surge of mini-Rob Ford candidates who decide to run against anyone supporting new funding for TransLink, they say.

 

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“You’re going to have a lot of people running on issues like ‘No gravy train, no new taxes,’ ” said Richard Walton, the past chair of the TransLink mayors’ committee and mayor of the District of North Vancouver.

Even if that didn’t happen, mayors wouldn’t have the time that’s required to persuade voters about the need for a major shift in transit funding because they’d be preoccupied with local issues.

“We’ve all got to focus on our own communities and getting elected,” said Mr. Walton. “And if we’re not campaigning for the referendum, then who is?”

Premier Christy Clark had promised before last May’s election that her government would hold a referendum on new sources of money to pay for billions of dollars in improvements that the regional transit authority says are needed as the population continues to boom in the Lower Mainland.

Right now, the system is paid for primarily through fares, property taxes and gas taxes. Some other sources of funding that have been suggested include the proceeds from the province’s carbon tax, a regional sales tax, a vehicle levy that varies with vehicle weight and mileage, or a regional tolling system.

TransLink’s board and mayors’ council have all been singularly unsuccessful in getting the province to agree to any of those in five years of trying.

Mr. Walton said that he, unlike many other mayors in the region, does believe that a referendum is a legitimate idea when “you’re making a paradigm shift from one form of funding to another.”

But it takes time and energy to campaign for such a large shift.

“People have to see the value proposition very clearly. They want to know if they’re paying extra, they’re getting something back.”

He said it typically takes two or three years to educate the public on all the issues involved. That’s what happened in Los Angeles, where the region, which includes 80 different municipalities, did get support from 67 per cent of its voters in a 2008 referendum for a 0.5-per-cent sales-tax increase to make transit improvements.

Other mayors disagree that there should be any referendum at all. Or, if there is one, they suggest it be in the spring.

But they, like Mr. Walton, are dismayed at the possible negative consequences of holding it on this year’s Nov. 15 municipal-election date.

“If it’s held during the election, there will be groups trying to make political points on both sides,” said Coquitlam Mayor Richard Stewart. “And we need every local government official in the region focused on selling the benefits of investing in transit. [But during an election], they’re just not going to have enough time.”

Mr. Stewart said it might be a harder sell in some municipalities than others. In Coquitlam, people are seeing shovels in the ground for the new Evergreen SkyTrain line, so they might be more aware of the benefits.

“But in those communities that don’t even have good bus services, there will be work to do to convince their residents it’s worth the investment.”

Port Coquitlam Mayor Greg Moore and Richmond Mayor Malcolm Brodie also worried that the timing could wreak havoc.

“There’s definitely the potential that this question could hijack the election and local issues you’re trying to deal with,” said Mr. Moore.

No one at this point knows exactly what is going on with timing or wording of a referendum question. Last month, the Premier said in an interview with The Globe and Mail that the referendum would be held in conjunction with next fall’s municipal elections. But Transport Minister Todd Stone later said the date had not been decided

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  • Bill

    @MB #148

    “When the prices of imports become too high, we make our own products,”

    So how high would prices have to get before our homemade computers, smartphones, televisions etc would be competitive with imports? What you are suggesting is complete nonsense and any way you slice it our standard of living would collapse. You are arguing for protectionism through currency devaluation which would make us all poorer.

    “I believe government policy should move in this direction, notably in job creation,”

    Governments do not create jobs except in the public sector (maybe that’s enough for you). Governments can only create an environment that is conducive to business yet you keep advocating for policies (like increasing energy costs through more expensive renewables) that would have the opposite effect. Fortunately, we have a government that has been working to make us more competitive and it is paying off. Bloomberg named Canada the 2nd best country for business in its 2014 survey. And that was before our currency declined in relative value.

  • Chris Keam

    LOL, Bill, just own it already.

    You began this derail by pointing out who professed admiration for ChiCom methods. One might presume to think you were being critical of them for same. I presented another instance, but sadly it was sourced from one of your ostensible governance idols so you didn’t like that. But he was joking, so all good right? Well, except for the part where autocratic behavior was manifested by the self-same Transportation Minister. So, the take-away here is that when people talk about dictatorial behaviour, that’s bad in your opinion. But when they engage in it, for outcomes you approve of, that’s good. The ends justify the means right? Sorry, not my p.o.v. of the world. How counts just as much as Why, and as someone upthread pointed out, we’re still in the same place, except now we don’t even get a say in who manages our transportation authority. You move the goal posts and change the rules when faced with concrete proof of your hypocrisy.

    http://calvinandhobbes.wikia.com/wiki/Calvinball

  • Bill

    @Chris Keam #152

    Translink was created by the Legislature and its governance model was changed by the Legislature. Whether that was a good idea or not is a fair question but hardly a dictatorial action by Kevin Falcon as he only gets one vote and not even the most important one which is the Premier’s.

  • Chris Keam

    It happened under his watch Bill, so he gets the credit. No different than you holding the Mayor accountable for things Council does, even when he doesn’t vote unless it’s to break a tie. Anyway, you’re moving the goalposts again. You admire autocracy when it suits you. That’s cool. Good for people to know.

  • Bill

    So you think that the actions of a duly elected legislature represents an autocracy? Just in case you have misplaced your dictionary:

    au·toc·ra·cy (ô-tŏk′rə-sē)

    n. pl. au·toc·ra·cies

    1. Government by a single person having unlimited power; despotism.

    2. A country or state that is governed by a single person with unlimited power.

    Yeah, that sounds like British Columbia all right.

  • Chris Keam

    Annnd, we’re down to debating single words, rather than actions related to the topic, let along the topic itself. Good job Bill. Mission accomplished amirite?

  • Bill

    @Chris Keam

    The issue was “autocracy” so I don’t think correcting you on your misuse of the word could be seen as being out of order or irrelevant. What’s that I hear? Gooooooooooal!

  • Chris Keam

    Good for you Bill. You deserve the occasional moral victory. You worked so hard for it, I couldn’t possibly deny you the fantasy of me gnashing my teeth over it. I’ll concede I used a word inaccurately, but I’ll also leave this here:

    “UBC professor Frank said that the new TransLink structure gives Falcon more autonomy. “He’s already acting in an autocratic way and this makes it easier for him to do what he wants and harder for those who want him to do something different.”

    http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=ff341728-33b4-493a-a7ba-05047fc6c61e&sponsor=

  • boohoo

    Funny that you pick away at words you don’t like but have yet to define what you mean by ‘Progressive’ while you lob it out as an insult regularly. You’re a sad bully.

  • Jeff Leigh

    I always figured Progressive was the opposite of Regressive.

  • MB

    Jeff 160

    You took the words right out of my phone keyboard.

  • MB

    Bill 151

    Your misappropriation of my words and redirection into a Regressive’s econonmic interpretation of the world is complete nonsense.

    Protectionism …. horsefeathers. I am referring to the “import replacement” Jane Jacobs wrote about. California is in the third year of the most severe drought on record and the water supplies are in some parts of the state down to 20% of what they need to thrive. Their huge agricultural industry is on the line. You may or may not have noticed that Canadian consumers are hugely dependent on produce imported from Caliornia, but are lined up to take a hit on prices beyond what our sinking dollar will cause and into additional increases as supplies become constrained.

    Luckily Canada has abundant farmland. Where it isn’t abundant (e.g. BC) it was wisely protected. Should imported food start to become too expensive due to drought, then locally grown food will naturally move into the vacuum.

    I see this as a supply and demand question. Policy, though, can create or enhance the conditions for innovation, and thinkers like E. Glaeser see investments in human capital such as in education and cities as strengthening the ability of economies to create wealth through diversification.

  • Bill

    @Jeff Leigh #161

    “I always figured Progressive was the opposite of Regressive.”

    Did you pick that up out of your “Newspeak” dictionary?

  • Bill

    @MB #162

    MB? You’re back? I thought your silence meant you had exhausted this topic. Oh yeah, it was the week end. No reason you should spend your own time on this when you can do it on your employers time.

    Replacing lettuce I get. (too bad Alterrus couldn’t have hung on a bit longer). I was talking about smart phones and other electronics. How is your import replacement plan going to work for that category of goods?

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  • Jeff Leigh

    So, Premier Clark is reported to have opened the door to not having the referendum in November. Implications?

  • johnnyC

    Whats there to hijack. No one votes in a civic election

  • Waltyss

    Ms. Bula, remember that accommodating the mentally handicapped has its limits.

  • Bill

    @gman #165

    Do you have another video defining “idealogue”? Thought I would save boohoo the embarrassment of asking.

  • boohoo

    Bill,

    For someone who berates others for not providing evidence or clarification of their point, it’s a bit rich you mock me for asking the same of you.