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Is it time to start thinking about Plan B for the transit referendum?

March 27th, 2015 · 309 Comments

The guy who was the mayoral candidate for the Non-Partisan Association last November, Kirk LaPointe, thinks so.

Anyone else got a Plan B?

 

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  • A Taxpayer

    You alarmists are like the cops who just know that their suspect, CO2, is guilty so all is fair to get a conviction. Take your first smoking gun evidence – the Mann Hockey Stick. Once it was thoroughly discredited you just moved on to the next smoking gun, rising temperatures and all the computer models that predicted a continued upward trajectory. Oops, that’s not working out so well. So how about sea levels. Let’s use that until you have to find the next smoking gun. Of course you can’t admit the slightest of contrary evidence because that might just raise reasonable doubt and reasonable people might conclude that adaptation is less costly that mitigation.
    Oh, and by the way, the graph only reflects a correlation between CO2 and sea level and not climate.

  • jenables

    You are starting to sound like Mark Notfler, a man who I’m going to guess is at least a decade older than me, trying to suggest I’m senile. If you want to join team jackass, it’s your prerogative.

  • Chris Keam

    I’m not suggesting you are senile. I do think you’ve got this ‘memory’ wrong.

  • jenables

    I will cross my fingers for you and your daughter that her teenage years are happier than mine. I hated being 13/14 – not a great time to be a girl, imo, and you couldn’t have paid me to enough to want to spend time with my dad. Things change, of course, and I think he’s great now. You could always pick a time and date if you were so inclined.

    You’ve probably spent hours and hours replying to me over the last six years, like it or not.

  • Chris Keam

    Please respect the privacy of online commenters. I’m going to ask you to remove the previous remark which mentions members of my family.

  • jenables

    Which I only knew because you had mentioned it. I don’t have a problem with doing that, though.

  • Chris Keam

    Thank you!

  • Jeff Leigh

    The hockey stick graph, or more precisely, reconstructions of past temperatures using proxies, showing greatly increased warming in recent years, has been validated. Just look at the reports.
    Rising temperatures were both predicted, and are happening as per the predictions. You were given the graphs.
    It must feel like you are being persecuted, with a new rebuttal argument every time you come up with a reason not to accept the consensus. But it is pretty easy to rebut the sort of nonsense that is consistently trotted out by the denial lobby. They are the same tired points, over and over. Unless you have an original theory, and can show how your ideas explain the observed results, and fit in with various laws (like the laws of thermodynamics), then you should probably give it up. It is OK to have an opinion that you don’t want to spend money on mitigation. It is not OK to invent pseudoscientific crap and try and paint it as legitimate science.
    Fortunately, policy makers have started taking notice.
    PS: the graph was addressing three of your points about models not being accurate as forecasts of trends. It is an important model in a discussion of global warming, even if it doesn’t directly impact the weather report. Understanding the causation (not just correlation) requires a read of the report, not just looking at the graph. But what you should really be responding to is the ability of the model to forecast a 30 year trend, when the model was based on sea level rises over and above natural causes, and driven by increased CO2 levels.

  • A Taxpayer

    “Fortunately, policy makers have started taking notice.”
    This is more wishful thinking than reality because other than Obama, who is desperate to avoid edging out Jimmy Carter as the worst President, the other leaders of the developed economies are more concerned about the impact of slow growth and aging populations on the next 20 years. They may toss a few bones to the Greens but not enough to impact the economy or climate change.
    And China and India are certainly not going to harm their economies because of the need for continued improvement in the standard of living of their people. So even if the Greens can coerce the developed economies to take unilateral action to reduce emissions, it will be a pyrrhic victory as the emissions of China and India grow. Only way to avoid that outcome – adaptation.
    Oh and by the way. A Belated Happy Earth Day, a big day in the Green Religion’s calendar. No doubt you celebrated the day with the traditional candle lit dinner perhaps featuring Henny Penny (who was repurposed after falling egg production) served alongside the homegrown vegetables (from last year’s bounty carefully stored in the family root cellar) cooked on the solar powered electric barbeque.

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