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Former city planner talks for first time about how Grandview-Woodlands towers got shoved into plan

November 12th, 2014 · 8 Comments

This comment is buried far down in a post on Gord Price’s blog, Pricetags, (the one about the death of residential real estate) but of course it’s attracting a lot of interest. For those who don’t know, Scot Hein ran the urban-design department inside the city’s planning division. It was a position that had been created by former planner Larry Beasley, as a way of driving home the point that planning wasn’t just about the buildings or the traffic flow or the other mechanical parts, but about how communities used space. Scot was a big part of the planning for Olympic village. The European feel of the plaza, which has become a hive of activity, is part of his work. He left earlier this year to work at UBC, a surprise to many who knew him and how dedicated he was to the city.

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November 10, 2014 4:28 pm

Here is what really happened speaking as the city’s Senior Urban Designer at the time the GW process was tabling built form.

We put together what we believed was a reasoned overall plan for GW towards increased residential and employment opportunity. We fully appreciated the development economics of the Safeway site at B+C that, given active revenue generating impacts on the pro forma, related phasing considerations, noise impacts and view opportunity up and down “the cut” and believed that two modest towers in the range of 20 to 25 storeys maximum located on the easterly half of the site could be considered to make the Safeway site developable and, more importantly, improve the challenging interface conditions (all four sides) of Safeway while pedestrianizing the Commercial Drive frontage by integrating those shallow depth properties into a larger development opportunity. We imagined a series of related, modestly scaled low and mid rise buildings in this scenerio. Otherwise, we believed that the appropriate approach to intensifying an already relatively high density community, of what must be seen as “special urban fabric”, was in transitional mid to low rise form. We absolutely did not support towers outside the focused “Safeway Precinct”. We were instructed to put this plan (in our view based on thoughtful urban design best practice) in the drawer never to see the light of day. We were then “told” by senior management to prepare a maximum tower scheme which we produced under protest as we declared we did not support such an uninformed approach for the GW neighbourhood. Our next plan yielded 20 towers which was advanced to the decision makers (I cannot confirm who saw this plan). We were then told to produce a third plan which cut the towers in half down to 10. We prepared this third plan, also under protest, which was taken out to the community. The public process imploded soon thereafter. Our work in the city’s Urban Design Studio for over 10 years was always about best practice and integrity of process. We always believed that meaningful, honourable co-design processes could yield win-win if conducted properly. We were never given this opportunity in GW.

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  • Kirk

    Holy effing sh*t. All our guesses that council (and the developers that control them) pollitically interfered with everything just got a massive shot of credibility.

  • Brian Young

    Not the first city planner to quit under this regime.

  • Headshakin

    Any idea who this murky “senior management” is?

  • francesbula

    Oh, if we only knew. That’s what everyone is wondering. Brian Jackson, yes, presumably. But beyond that, Penny Ballem? Who knows? Only the FOIs know for sure.

  • Dan Cooper

    The most shameful part of this fiasco, to me, was that the powers that be tried to blame the rank and file planning staff for the decision, by saying that the insertion of the towers without any public discussion ahead of time was a decision by the staff as a whole. Of course, since that claim was ridiculous on its face – things simply not working that way – it was also a slap in the face of the public, implying we were stupid enough to buy it. No one did, and now the proof arrives that we were – of course – right.

  • Lewis_N_Villegas

    A second take on the same story is posted here by Joseph Jones: http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/blog/joseph-jones/32060

  • jenables

    I have heard Jackson, Ballem and Robertson, with Robertson being concerned about the 2nd plan’s # of towers (ONLY because it was being revealed close to an election year, which is unsurprising but speaks volumes) hence, the third plan which was the emerging directions document we all know and love to hate. I think it was Joseph Jones’s story which Lewis has linked where I first read it. I have my doubts that FOI would be forthcoming with that information.

    Is this the type of thing most city managers are involved in, I.e. dictating planning? Note Scot’s careful wording of the “uninformed” approach, and Jackson’s history of ignoring best practices… you really, really wonder what kind of stake Ballem, Jackson and Robertson have in this.

  • Jeffrey Patterson

    Very informative! Thanks so much, Scot, for being so forthright. I think this answers the questions I might have put to someone in CH if I thought they’d be candid. It reminds us of the firing of the Director a few years ago and some of what we understood was behind this unfortunate episode in the Planning Department’s recent history.