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Exciting news on the parking front!!! South Granville gets programmable parking meters

September 7th, 2012 · 33 Comments

It never made sense to me that meters should always charge the same price at all hours. The CBD (central business district, for non-nerds) streets are between $4 and $6 an hour on weekdays … and on weekends, when no one is there and there is no compelling reason for anyone to drive downtown to pay those prices. So they sit empty, when the city could likely make more money by lowering the price, which would attract people who would be willing to pay the lower price and hike over to Robson or Granville.

Conversely, other areas charge incredibly low rates (many around Gastown, for example) when the streets there are often packed as people flood down for the restaurants and bars on weekend nights.

The city, as was previously reported, said it was moving to programmable meters. And now, it appears, they’re arriving.

 

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  • gmgw

    “Exciting news on the parking front!!!” is as good an example of an oxymoron as anything I’ve ever seen, right up there with “military intelligence”. Thanks, Fab.
    gmgw

  • Sharon Townsend

    One of the added benefits to the programmable meters is that they can offer different blocks of time depending on time of day, or day of week. As an example, when parking meter hours were extended to 10 pm, our Stanley Theatre patrons were caught in a bind trying to plug their meters during a performance. The city was able to offer us 4 hour parking after 6pm and now theatre patrons can come early for a show, have dinner and not be fretting about getting a nasty parking ticket.

    Same is true on Sundays when parking is not nearly as precious as during the week. Allowing shoppers 4 hours (anxiety free) to stroll rather than 2 is nothing but good for merchants that desperately need that business.

    For those that still choose/need to drive their cars – it is a win/win for everyone.

    I believe there are also some test areas downtown.

  • Andy Longhurst

    Haha. Love the headline and the excitement on this post. Always great to be able to nerd out!

  • Glissando Remmy

    Thought of The Night

    “Calling ‘Programmable Parking Meters’
    … ‘Exciting News’
    For what was known before to be FREE,
    It’s like calling a ‘Sophisticated Whore’ an
    … ‘In-House Hand Specialist’
    And a respectable mother of THREE!”

    Keep in mind that in the end, all the extra parking revenue collected, makes out the 6 figures salaries for a number of City Hall leeches.
    It seems fair to call them, only the newest form of regulated gambling in Las Vancouver… Parkling.
    One Hand Parking Bandits!?

    My kind of parking? The “Suparman” system:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYiDRT9jLig&feature=related

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

  • Sharon Townsend

    We don’t mind day time parking meters – night time is another subject but we were not given much (any) choice about the 10pm time extension. Daytime metering helps deter store staff from taking up valuable street parking, and it helps circulate the customers through the area.

    Not sure how they intend to replace the revenue when we all stop driving our cars!

  • Mira

    Glissando… thanks for that.
    You are making parking look like fun… πŸ™‚
    “Keep in mind that in the end, all the extra parking revenue collected, makes out the 6 figures salaries for a number of City Hall leeches.”
    Hear, hear!
    During the past four years, the majority of 1 & 2 hours free parking throughout the city have disappeared, the terms of the parking limit have changed from 8PM to 10PM.
    All replaced with Pay Parking. Al l the rates have gone up, on the street, in parks… this is starting to look like an attack on whoever owns a car, in fact this another subtle form of dictatorship – by user fee. Only the few chosen ones are exempt. People have become so shrewd and mean!
    Following this measures imposed by the the Vision gang now even the residents have joined in, they sometimes call the parking enforcement at city hall when they see a car parked in “free” zone have stayed parked for no more than three hours (I remembered at least half a dozen cars being towed on one of the Fireworks “Celebration of Lights” days … at around 9.30PM!!!! with the parking officer was standing nearby. What a conglomerate of douche bags this city have become! Apparently being “house rich” from doing nothing have made some think they have to behave like The NIMBY Rich – immature, wicked, mean, selfish…
    Welcome to Vancouver the greediest city in Canada, in the province of BC the best place on Earth… not!

  • gman

    Mira I think Waltis has a crush on you,I came to this conclusion the other day when I picked up my Granddaughter at her elementary school the other day.When the little guys like a girl they pick on them,pull on their pigtails and are obsessed with everything the little girl says or does.Or he just considers himself to be the self appointed opinion police.Im sure he won the love of all the albertans today,way to go Waltis.
    PS
    I agree with your post.

  • Frank Ducote

    One of the major functions of city centers is as a cultural slash entertainment zone – galleries large and small, museums, theatres, symphonies and their closely related restaurants. I think Vancouver’s rather rapacious approach to evening and weekend parking fees does no service to promoting and sustaining this essential element of city life, indeed one the main benefits that comes from living in a big city.

    Gallery row, aka South Granville, is one of the key areas of Vancouver that could really benefit from an even more liberal relaxation of parking fees evenings and weekends. However, this admittedly old school way of thinking isn’t likely to happen very soon, so I guess this current initiative is as generous as City Hall is likely to get.

  • Terry M

    Waltyss,
    The only racist person on this blog lives in your own head! Name calling and Other goodies are your only speciality outside your Arrogance!
    Mira expressed very clearly what many people living here in this beautiful city are thinking. She is not alone. For the past four years this metropolis have gone down the shit pipes, thanks to your juice boy and his cohorts installed one by one at the City Hell!
    Time for you to admit there is no place to go from here but down, you and your pals.
    Take some rest, a vacation, multivitamins… You need them more than ever.

  • brilliant

    It is somewhat hilarious that the “greenest city” cabal is addicted to parking revenues. But like Translink they have pushed motorists too far and revenues extorted from motorists ate beginning too plummet.

  • Morry

    Parking METERS!!!

    here is my little secret: I have my way with them and leave them wanting and longing for more…which i don’t give.

  • Julia

    How can a benign post about parking meters turn into a mud slinging fight? This blog is starting to feel like the comment section of TMZ.

    We have PacificPress going behind a pay wall, Jeff Lee is on leave, City Caucus has shut down – this is one of the few places left to keep important civic issues alive.

    Let’s not scare everyone away by acting like idiots. Who does that help?

  • Frank Ducote

    Julia – I commend your plea but it certainly fell, rather quickly, on deaf ears.

    Although it is growing fainter, I also retain some hope that this very valuable blog can return to some modicum of civility and stick to the issue at hand.

  • Michelle

    Waltyss, your comments and insinuations are simply disgusting. So very progressive of you!
    I read GR’s comment and all I could find wias subtle satire (too subtle for you evidently) as for Mira’s , give me a break, ask all realtors in Vancouver where they advertise the most condos and RE and you’ll save yourself a heartache!
    But by the way, where’s the splendid copy paste from your pal, supporter, biking advocate and Vision admirer Chris Keam addressed to ‘terrich’ not too long ago… We can be selective when we want to, am I right Waltyss?
    Simply pathetic.
    FWIW parking sucks in Vancouver, and lately have become the only milking cow around. long Live the Great Vision Party and its Great Leader ?.. LOL!

  • Terry M

    “How can a benign post about parking meters turn into a mud slinging fight?”
    Julia @ 13
    my answer would be… “cherchez la … Waltyss!” like Frenchmen use to say πŸ™‚
    Michele ,I have a better idea, maybe some of us should start copy-pasting some of Mr W’s!
    Like the “Best of Waltyss” or something πŸ™‚
    Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone… LOL!
    That would be a tough one!

  • Frank Ducote

    Fabula – I’m not sure why my posting was deleted. Was it because I used the term “rapacious” to describe evening and weekend parking rates? At least I was on topic!

    To be clear, I agree with Waltsys that eliminating pay parking after 6pm would certainly help evening-oriented cultural, entertainment and dining activities, and also make it easier for people who live in such areas to have visitors, for gosh sakes. The South Granville gallery row is one of those key destination areas.

  • Joe Just Joe

    I always thought the meters should start an hour earlier and end an hour earlier. Think 8am to 9pm is better then 9am-10pm. Heck 7am-8pm would be even better imo. That said I fully support programmable rates. Evenings and weekends should be cheaper and I applaud the technology that finally makes it possible on meters. Now someone just needs to create an app that will tell us where open spaces are w/o circling the book a few times, all hands free of course. πŸ™‚

  • waltyss

    @Michelle #16:
    before you get too worked up, look at Post
    #103 under Transit Crisis Season is upon us. Then Michelle, show me where you have even mildly rebuked one of your fellow City Caucus haters.
    QED, Michelle.
    Glissy as subtle satire. Somehow, I have never believed that calling someone City hall leeches or his other scabrous comments constituted “subtle satire”. That you think so, as well as your posts, amply demonstrates that you wouldn’t know subtle satire if it came up and bit you on the ass.

  • boohoo

    Back from a lovely weekend for this. Good job everyone. Good job.

  • Ned

    If I knew parking was this funny and interesting I would have bought myself a car…
    Guys, guys I almost wiped a tear off my face… from laughter. Keep them coming!
    To paraphrase FB’s title #1
    β€œExciting news on the parking front!!!”
    πŸ™‚

  • waltyss

    GR:
    I would be flattered with the poem/paean to me if it contained the slightest bit of wit or cleverness. Sorry bud.
    I don’t believe I have ever called you cell mate. Is it appropriate? As for hasheater, if you understood the reference, you might feel honoured.
    As for my screaming when I am picked on, well, I seldom if ever start a fight but am happy to fight back particularly at the City Caucus haters whose contempt for civil servants and their fellow citizens is, well, not to be tolerated.
    I understand that you dislike (probably hate0 the current administration at city hall. Irrational as that may be, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, someone who has aspirations to be clever and poetic, can surely find language that is civil. As for some of your fellow haters, well, to coin a phrase, I understand.
    As I have mentionned to you before, living in Vancouver can keep us busy keeping the City Caucus haters in line.
    Now back to parking….

  • Frances Bula

    @JJJ. You know, I heard that someone in Washington DC developed an app just like that using open data from government. I agree, having it here would be faaabulous.

  • Frances Bula

    @Frank. Weird, I don’t know why your previous two posts didn’t go up automatically. They should have. Usually something is held only if there are a lot of links. Anyway, they’re up now and I’ll monitor more carefully to see if there are any other stalls.

  • Frank Ducote

    Waltsys – it is clear that some folks on this blog truly raise your ire, as they do mine as well, from time to time. I find some of the language truly appalling. However, for your own sanity and also to maintain the value of Fabula’s blog, it might be best to let some of the c**p slide, so to speak, rather than rebut each and every time. Hard as that might be to do.

    Also, if I never see “LOL” or an emoticon again it will be too soon.

  • Frances Bula

    @Frank. Thank you (and a thank you to all the others who also performed interventions to try to bring civility back) for this gentle note. Things did get a bit out of hand over the weekend. As all of you know, I like this to be as free a discussion as possible, but not at the expense of driving away people who are turned off by over-the-top name-calling.

  • waltyss

    @ Frank Ducote. Points taken. And I do try to let most of them slide, but sometimes…

  • Glissando Remmy

    Thought of The Night

    “But isn’t there something wrong when I’m the only guy in the country that got fired for 9/11? – Bill Maher”

    Sure thing Walter #26, you didn’t let any of mine slide now, did you?

    I can say, I engaged you two, three times to your dozen… rings a bell?

    So now I see Frances is giving me the censor’s treatment, oh my, but hey… you’ve been scolded as well.

    Pity… that was a real good limerick, quite fitting.
    Too bad I didn’t save it, as I wrote it on the go. But with my memory and your good looks, we’ll make it somehow.

    Till then though, you know the drill…

    We live in Vancouver and this keeps us busy.

    PS.
    Frank… good one, LOL ! πŸ™‚

  • Silly Season

    FYI Vancouver Sun Switches to New Commenting System

    Well, someone had to go first… (I’ll repost highter up the subjects board, too)…

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Note+readers+commenting+system/7220051/story.html

  • Frank Ducote

    @Silly Season – the key word there is respectful.

  • Silly Season

    @Frank Ducote #29

    Exactly.

  • Chris Keam

    “Not sure how they intend to replace the revenue when we all stop driving our cars!”

    http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/tp-tp14800-menu-159.htm

    From the link:

    “The study estimates that collisions cost Canada $62.7 billion each year. This estimate represents about 4.9 per cent of Canada’s 2004 Gross Domestic Product (GDP).”

    I think we would find the money somewhere if the estimates are correct.

  • Guest

    Well, the proposed pedestrian / bike path down the middle of the Granville Bridge (and elimination of one lane each way) may result in curbside parking being “stripped” from at least the north end of the South Granville strip:

    – see notes on diagrams in Appendix A.

    http://former.vancouver.ca/fs/bid/bidopp/RFP/SF-RFP-PS20120758.htm

  • Frank Ducote

    Guest – thanks for the due diligence. I’m sure this aspect will be very unpopular with businesses there.