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Developer Gillespie and Hootsuite CEO Holmes team up to buy block in Mount Pleasant while city considers zoning tweaks

December 4th, 2015 · 8 Comments

The Mount Pleasant industrial zone has turned into one of the hottest pieces of real estate in the city. A story I did last year, based on planner Andy Yan’s maps showing assessment increases, indicated even then that prices had soared.

That’s because all kinds of companies have spotted this as a fantastically located and designated hip area to do business. It’s close to downtown, to Main Street breweries and hipster/tech employee renters on the east, to the Canada Line on the west, and to a whole bunch of new residents in Olympic Village.

The city’s been working to preserve it as industrial, sort of. Two years ago, it allowed landowners to redevelop buildings to add office, as long as one-third of the space was preserved for industrial. That’s led to some interesting new buildings. But even that wasn’t enough to slake the demand by tech companies and others to get in. (Although apparently one accounting firm has moved in, with a deal that put the Vans shoe people into the industrial part of the building.)

Then came the news among those in the know down there that Westbank Corp. developer Ian Gillespie had teamed up with Hootsuite CEO Ryan Holmes to buy an entire block down there. (The two formed a corporation, 111 E 5th Properties on Aug. 13 and the sale went through on Sept. 15, from the look of land records.)

That comes while there’s also news that the city’s planning department is looking at tweaks to the existing zoning. My more complete Globe story on all of the above is here.

But I’m still trying to understand exactly what might happen on that block and in that area.

Hootsuite people have been talking for at least a year about wanting to create a big co-ordinated campus for employees, who are now spread out in three buildings (two of them on the block that Gillespie and Holmes just bought).

Gillespie told me yesterday that it’s not clear what they’ll do with the property yet, but his longtime architect associate, Gregory Henriquez, has been talking to others about a plan for a campus. As well, I’ve heard via a well-connected grapevine that the financing for a five-storey building on that land has been organized.

Then it’s quite unclear what direction the city might take on all of this. It’s had Avison Young doing a study on the potential impacts of a change in zoning. From talking to several brokers down there, it’s apparent that some are panting for the change so they can get more clients in, while others are worried that it will just turn the area into an office zone or that it will favour some landholders over others.

Anyone with more information on any of this, please get in touch.

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  • Kirk

    I’m going to sound cynical here, so fair warning before reading on.

    I’ve said it so many times, this whole city is just a big real estate play. Now, even our burgeoning high-tech sector is being used as just another excuse for the usual developer players to get areas rezoned (again/as usual) in their favour. The bright side, I suppose, is that maybe developers will invest in tech start-ups, keeping them alive for the sole purpose of getting rezoning applications. I kind of doubt Telus Gardens would’ve received all their variances if they were an oil company. Hootsuite is a great local brand name, if they ask for a rezoning, I’m sure they’ll get it. Developers are looking to Seattle and salivating over what a handful of tech companies can do for real estate.

  • peakie

    Marina Times, (SF)
    “A vote of disdain for Mayor Ed Lee: How the accidental mayor turned San Francisco into a playground for tax-skirting techies”

    ….San Francisco’s contempt for Lee’s leadership began in his first term with the infamous “Twitter tax break,” an exemption from the city’s 1.5 percent payroll tax initiated by Lee in 2012 to attract technology start-ups to the crime- and drug-infested mid-Market area with the promise they would help clean it up. Four years later, those start-ups have morphed into gargantuan public companies through IPOs that made it rain stock options. According to the San Francisco treasurer’s office, in 2014 the city lost out on $34 million in taxes from those companies, $30 million more than in 2013. Meanwhile Mid Market is worse than ever, with filthy, urine-scented sidewalks and rampant drugs, crime, poverty, and homelessness.

    and see http://www.businessinsider.com/ev-williams-says-why-twitter-put-headquarters-in-tenderloin-2015-7

    But remember Hootsuite depends on Twitter, and Twitter is dying….
    As are other supporting social network integrations for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Google+, Foursquare, MySpace, WordPress, TrendSpottr. [ What dat!!? ]
    “Twitter Inc.
    abandoned plans at the 11th hour for a big expansion into Uber and
    Square’s 1455 Market St. headquarters, potentially due to a hiring
    slowdown.” Bizjournals.com Octover 2015

    Shares of Twitter have declined about 27 percent so far this year.

  • peakie

    Ah, Ian Gillespie, famed for the ‘I can do anything’ speech

    Ian Gillespie, the developer of the Woodward’s project and the Oakridge site with architect Gregory Henriquez, spoke in January [2013] to a San Francisco audience about how he’s dealt with Vancouver’s senior planners in the past. According to Easy as Pie, a participant in the online SkyscraperPage Forum, he described it as freewheeling: “Gillespie said that he’d never once built a project in Vancouver that fit within existing zoning — a huge laugh line for the SF audience — and he described a somewhat astonishing development process for the Shangri-La, which basically consisted of a few lunches to get height and lot coverage settled before even acquiring the land.”

    Only then, wrote Pie, did Gillespie finish a co-venture deal with the property owner “on the back of ‘a Tim Hortons napkin’… There were also plenty of other stories that reinforce the ‘discretionary’ nature of discretionary planning in Vancouver, but none so powerful as Gillespie’s flat-out admission that you get what you want as long as you buy the city off with daycare space or whatever they want.”

    http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2013/06/25/Vancouver-Tower-Debate/

  • Lysenko’s Nemesis

    You aren’t being cynical at all. If you are able to see clearly your opinion is even more valued.

    After a few years another wave of young and earnest people will arise and promise to clean up municipal politics, just as this current gang promised.

    plus ça change

  • Roger_Kemble

    High tech! Can you type?

  • davididid

    if you read the skyscraper page post, the point is that he’s rewarded for handing over much more to the city in terms of amenities than any other developer, pushing the envelope architecturally, and of basically making vancouver a better place to live. he’s exceptional in vancouver because so many other developers just want to do the minimum, so planning likes to work with him.

  • A Taxpayer

    Before canonizing Mr. Gillespie, take a look at the Sun article about the Utilities Commission ruling on an application by Creative Energy, also owned by Mr Gillespie.

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Utilities+commission+throws+wrench+into+city+energy+plans/11577928/story.html

    It would be interesting for some investigative reporter to connect all the dots and net out all the economic benefits. There is no free lunch and it is only a question of who is paying for it – the taxpayer, the buildings covered by the monopoly or a civic minded developer.

  • denzel

    Isn’t COV policy supposed to be directing this sort of growth (especially the high tech, “green” business stuff) into the False Creek Flats..? And so if they fan the redevelopment flames in this area wont they be hurting the redevelopment of the Flats in the image they want?