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Changes to popular bike route provoke anxiety among small, indie, green businesses

May 22nd, 2013 · 122 Comments

I post this story with trepidation, having observed already on a few Twitter exchanges that the cycling crowd immediately jumped into trashing these businesses for not being progressive enough while the predictable anti-bike crowd weighed in.

Can I just reiterate one more time. These businesses ALREADY HAVE 4,000 bikes a day going past them, so the argument that they will discover that having a bike lane on their street will produce increased business seems not very relevant.

They are also not arguing that the street needs to be made safer. There’s no quibble with the plan to shut down Union west of Main, which will discourage some traffic from using Union east of Main as a shortcut to downtown. There’s also strong support for improving the signage, signals at the Main/Union intersection, where, as it so happens, pedestrians are much more likely to be killed or injured than cyclists.

Hoping against hope here that there can be a civil discussion about how to make streets safer while respecting businesses that, whether you like it or not, are still dependent on customer getting there by car. As several of them noted, the area that they have sprouted up in is not one that everyone is comfortable walking long distances in. Those of us who know the city well feel perfectly safe, but not everyone does. These businesses are going to contribute to this area, one day, being seen as comfortable to walk around in for many more people, but that’s not the case now.

Green businesses balk at Vancouver bike lane

 

 

 

Vancouver’s push to create more and better protected bike lanes dismayed a lot of downtown businesses over the last several years.

But this time, a proposal to create a separated lane on the edge of Chinatown has generated anxiety among the kinds of green, local businesses that Mayor Gregor Robertson frequently touts as the future of the city.

 

 

 

Among them, a grocery store that sells and delivers locally grown produce, a vegan restaurant, and a series of independent stores run by young entrepreneurs.

All of them moved into the block of Union Street just east of Main in the last two years, seeing the somewhat out-of-the-way street as a place to start fledgling businesses at reasonable rents.

Many are worried that the city’s plan – which includes not just the separated bike lane, but also a proposal to remove some street parking – will kill their fragile efforts. “We took a huge risk by coming here and, obviously, we’re not making money yet. Even a small change will affect us here,” said Kleah Michnik, one of the founders of Charlie & Lee, a hip clothing store mentioned by magazines like Travel + Leisure as a hidden treasure.

At The Board of Trade Co. next door, owner Eunice Quan said the shop doesn’t do as well as her other store in Gastown already. “A lot of people still don’t want to cross Main. And the closest SkyTrain is a 10- or 15-minute walk.”

She said her store works as a destination, mostly for people willing to drive to discover something new.

The proposed changes on Union are part of a major city upgrade to the 20-year-old Adanac/Union bikeway, one of the first established in Vancouver and among its busiest. The city’s transportation engineer, Jerry Dobrovolny, pointed out that about 4,000 cyclists a day use it in the summer. The two blocks of Union on either side of Main also get used by about 5,000 trucks a day.

The intersection of Union and Main is one of the top 10 locations for cyclist-motor vehicle crashes. The location has also been fatal for 45 per cent of the pedestrians hit there, according to statistics for 2006-2011.

Mr. Dobrovolny said the city is trying to work with the businesses and has already ditched one idea – making the street one-way – that they were concerned about.

Erin O’Mellin, the executive director of the city’s cycling advocacy group HUB, said that those statistics show that “it’s really important cyclists have an obvious and designated space to go.”

Ms. O’Mellin said her group plans to talk to businesses about how much they can gain from new bike traffic there.

“It brings a whole new market to their neighbourhood.”

For some businesses, the bike lane is no big deal. Leon Basin at Shop-Task, an in-line skate store, said the store’s customers will find their way there no matter what.

But the concerned group is not so easily persuaded about the “cyclists will buy your stuff” message.

“We’ve been trying to cater to the cyclists, because that’s who’s going by our stores every day. But cyclists are only now starting to realize there’s something on that block,” Mike Leung said.

He owns the space that houses Harvest Community Foods, which sells soups and local produce in its store as well as delivering boxes of produce through a system called Community Supported Agriculture where people prepay for a share of a local producer’s crops.

Like others, Mr. Leung said the main problem on the route is the intersection of Union and Main, not the whole street. He said if the signage were improved and if traffic were blocked on Union west of Main, as the city is planning, that would likely solve most of the issues.

Devon Skuban lives in a condo above the store and cycles regularly to his job in Gastown, so he thinks he understands the need for safe cycling.

But, he said, the changes being proposed by the city are too drastic for the fledgling businesses on the street.

“We are the revitalization,” Mr. Skuban said. “Businesses need to develop here.”

 

 

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  • gman

    Waltyss@

    ““We’re a little unclear why Dr. Ballem had to go to the budget lock-up anyways,” aid Jordan Bateman of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. “We can’t find any clips of her commenting on things, there doesn’t seem to be any huge Vancouver-specific announcement in the budget lock-up, and there was a budget lock-up the same day in Vancouver she could have attended.”

    So it looks like she could have attended the one in Vancouver the same day.I think the CTF is a great group,someone has to hold their feet to the fire.Your attacks on them make little sense at all,they go after anyone who isn’t on the up and up,it just so happens its usually your guys that seem to get caught.
    http://globalnews.ca/news/586481/vancouver-city-manager-penny-ballem-in-hot-water-over-spending/

  • waltyss

    @gman, you are entitled to your view point but it is interesting that the web address you post has several errors in it (goes with Bateman, I guess). The $700 was not for a flight to Victoria but a round trip ticket, she did not take $126,000 in taxis (but wait for Mira to quote that figure), and she does not make $366,000 (yes, I know, you and your ilk will say close enough).
    And that’s before we get to Bateman, who once amused us with his claim that the city was hiring someone at some $150,000 to look after 3 golf courses when in fact it was someone to be in charge of all of the COV parks including Stanley Park.
    That’s the problem with your ilk, you are not very good with facts; you view them as an annoyance standing in the way of your ideological rants.
    Rant away, but let’s be clear what they are.
    Let’s see, it’s my guys that get caught. I don’t think that Ballem is “my guy”. I just happen to despise tempest in a teapot attacks on civil servants that have little basis is fact and can’t be bothered to wait for information.
    As for my guys, honey, I have only to look at the Mayor in Toronto or the far right Tories in Ottawa to see what your guys are up. And gman, it ain’t pretty. $700 for an airplane ticket when if she had planned better she might have gotten away with $500 is chump change compared to your folks run for the trough. Moreover, there was no personal benefit to Ballem: the seat was the same whatever the price.

  • brilliant

    @Waltsyss-your private sector job? LOL

  • gman

    Waltyss#100
    So you have nothing to say about why she didn’t attend the meeting that was held the same day in Vancouver instead you go on an incoherent childish rant.I posted the numbers at #95 as MsJones asked what they were.Now if you have a problem with the numbers that Global used I suggest you give Global a call and if you’re too clueless to recognize a $26000 typo I’m afraid there isn’t much hope for you. And Waltyss when you decided to take on the task of Pennys personal cheerleader then yes she is your guy.Tell us Waltyss are you trying to channel Yosemite Sam or is this your own sad personality?

  • gman

    Apology’s if I offended Yosemite Sam.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnDxPG3KrtA

  • waltyss

    @brilliant not and gman, I appreciate that facts serve little purpose to a pack of baying, foaming at the mouth dogs, as the two of you and your camp followers demonstrate so well.
    brilliant not, yes, not just a job but a private sector job. And I want you to know that I fully support greater accommodation for the mentally disabled so that you too might find a job.
    I don’t know why Doctor Ballem did not attend the lockup in Vancouver. It is a valid question. Unlike you I am prepared to wait for an answer and then make a judgment as to whether there is an issue here of wastefulness or not. Certainly, as stated, I am not prepared to take your or Bateman’s claim there is no reason as an explanation for the reasons already stated.
    Now let’s turn to the Global pieces by Ted Chernecki, both the visual piece by Ted Chernecki and his online post. Yes, clearly the $126,000 was an error but it is the type of error that your campfollowers like the gullible Ms. Jones tend to pick up. In any event, again you demonstrate your unfamiliarity with facts. The “typo” is not $26,000 but $125, 874. Quite a difference, don’t you think?
    And that was not the only “typo” in the piece. The post claimed that Dr. Ballem made $366,000 last year by which I assume they mean 2012.
    We know from the Vancouver Sun figures that she made $324,000 (approx.) in 2011. You posted @95 that she is making $334,002. Whether that is 2012 or 2013 or where you got the number from, it appears more accurate and is significantly different than the $366,000 that Global claimed. A error of 12.5 % is significant in this type of piece , at least where I live. As I said, for baying dogs facts are of little importance.
    Chernecki in his piece says that she got an increase of $10,000 per year but does not point out that that figure is about a 3% annual increase.
    He claims in his post that she claimed expenses of $3000 but in the visual piece that is $11,500 (he doesn’t even seem to try to connect his written to his verbal piece). The $3000 “expenses” which appear in the Vancouver Sun piece are not really expenses but are perks such as a car allowance that are part of her compensation.
    The post by Chernecki claims “Vancouver city manager Penny Ballem is ranked as the third highest paid government employee in the province during 2011 and 2012.” This is patently false. She is nowhere near the top and is certainly far from the highest paid government employee.
    The Chernecki piece amply demonstrates why I don’t watch Global and why you probably do. Tawdry “journalism”, the sort you would enjoy.

  • ned

    Sorry, waltyss #106 but I re-read some of the previous comments that you are insinuating are full of misogynist, hate speech… whatever, you name it. Conclusion. You need to get a general checkup, buddy. And pronto. No one can argue with you about anything, you start to insult other commentators etc. etc etc.
    We were talking about a public servant that for the past 5 years sucked up dry the coffers of the vancouver city hall, managed to put the city tens of millions of dollars in debt, and that’s ok with you? Well it’s not ok with me, and many others. Yous don’t like where this conversation is going, I’ll quote your Dr. ballem “Tough!”
    Go fish!

  • waltyss

    Ned, I will try to patient and kind. I don’t know about putting the city “tens of millions of dollars in debt” since the city cannot run debt. But as I said before, I understand facts don’t matter and you will believe what you believe. Go fish, as you say.
    You may dislike Dr. Ballem for all sorts of reasons. Many people do. However, you can also disagree without being disagreeable (or a bitch on a stick). The comments by the Terry M’s “Add to that a new wicker broom for her local travels at $180 and there you go…” are a classic example. I could continue but I am not the one with an issue.
    Now about them “facts”. Got any?

  • Terry M

    ROTFLMAO!
    Don Waltyss, de la Dunbar, if you put all your energy into say … Wind energy generation, you could light up Vancouver City Hall all by yourself.
    Done and out!

  • jenables

    ok, let me just wade through the muck and mire here.. first how about a palate cleanser..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPmZ64m3_4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    ok, now that we’ve all settled down. Kingston pub, next Thursday May 30th at seven. I made a reservation in my name, Jen (Nelson). be there or be square!

  • jenables

    755 Richards street, I forgot to add.

  • jenables

    Mrs Jones had a good point there. commander Hadfield for prime minister! or premier! or mayor, or city manager!

  • F.H.Leghorn

    Waltyss, who has such respect for facts, states “the city cannot run debt”.
    That used to be the case, but their masterful management of the Olympic Village project meant that Premier Campbell’s government had to pass a law amending the Charter and putting the city $700 million in debt. What’s the anuual interest on a sum like that, waltyss? If you can’t calculate it you could always ask poor misunderstood Dr. Ballem.

  • Chris Keam

    thx for setting that up jenables. I’m unable to attend due to a prior commitment but I wish you all a convivial evening and spirited conversation.

  • Andrew Browne

    Darn on the 30th. I have work commitments that evening. Count me in for the next group therapy session. 🙂

  • Norman

    Now back to the issue: cycling on sidewalks is already against the law, so I don’t see what difference a “plan” will make. It sounds from some of the comments here like cyclists think they are doing the rest of us a Cavour when they aren’t on a sidewalk.

  • Norman

    A Cavour. Thank you, spell check.

  • Chris Keam

    “It sounds from some of the comments here like cyclists think they are doing the rest of us a Cavour when they aren’t on a sidewalk.”

    Can you indicate which of the specific comments in this thread give you this impression?

  • Norman

    I will not be drawn into your personal attacks, Mr. K.

  • Chris Keam

    No attack. Just wondering if you can indicate which comment precipitated your remark? Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. Perhaps whichever poster made the comment can clarify and we’d have actually achieved something productive by dispelling a misapprehension or confirming that your inference is justified

  • waltyss

    foghorn @ 115.
    I overgeneralized. Vancouver cannot incur debt unless it goes to referdum. The sole exception was the South East False Creek Development where the COV took over the loan and was allowed to do so through an amendment to the Charter that allowed it to bypass a referendum.
    As we know, for Campbell the Olympics trumped everything else.
    That said, let’s go back to Ned’s comment at #109 where he alleges that Ballem “managed to put the city tens of millions of dollars in debt”.
    The bailout of Millenium so that COV could meet its commitments to the Olympic Committee is not something you can blame Dr. Ballem for. I haven’t heard of a real alternative.
    Any other debt is by referendum and those usually pass quite handily.
    So to paraphrase Toronto’s Mayor Ford: “got any facts? I need some.”

  • Bill Lee

    Meanwhile, City pulling back on Kits bike route today 24 June

    Kitsilano bike-path meeting put on hold
    by WENDY STUECK
    VANCOUVER — The Globe and Mail
    Published Monday, Jun. 24 2013, 8:42 PM EDT
    Last updated Monday, Jun. 24 2013, 8:54 PM EDT
    more at: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/kitsilano-bike-path-meeting-put-on-hold/article12790826/